Olis Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Say, uh, how small do we go with these? Down to frigate and destroyers or down to individual craft like Thunderhawks? I'm only asking because one named Thunderhawk has popped up in FTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 No, that's the same ship but it's written as Praetorian Trust in the book and had no class that I saw. Very peculiar. Olis, since the OP gives the premise of a Heresy-era BFG game, I think frigates are the smallest named units so the Eisenstein gets to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 when I get back to my house (on hols atm and away from home) I'll flick through the books I have at home, I'll look at Prospero Burns specifically to see if I can find referrence for the Russvangum and any other ships in the Space Wolf/Vylka Fenryka fleet... @ADB echoing others - it's brilliant to know that our 'work' can help someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted December 25, 2012 Author Share Posted December 25, 2012 I'd say any thing that is at least an interplanetary craft including transports. Some large transports will be referred to as Dropships if they can make planet fall even if they are warp capable. Destroyer sized ships aren't named in the Navy in 40K, they have hull numbers, but RT, Civi and Renegades would be as well as Astartes ships. I can.t ever remember an Astartes ship of any size that didn't get a name if it was around for more the 1 line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 This is an awesome resource. I totally just bookmarked it for my own nefarious ends. Quick suggestion though, in terms of making it look neater/more professional/whatever: In the source column, it could be laid out like, as an example: Legion, by Dan Abnett. [black Library] Horus Heresy I: Betrayal, by Alan Bligh. [Forge World] 'The Crimson Fist' - Shadows of Treachery, by John French. [black Library] Novel, anthology and sourcebook names usually get italicised in stuff like this. Short stories and novellas often get apostrophes. Feel free to ignore, natch. It's getting printed out for my office wall, no matter what it looks like. Great resource. Wow! Good to see that you find this useful ADB - feel free to comment/correct or even add to it! The Covenant of Blood should be in there right? As well as the Echo of Damnation... and the Excoriator. :D It seems that the sources column would take up most of the time though with all the italics and the apostophes... :) I'll see what I can do. :) Edit: and is there a particular format to treat audio dramas? I mean if we're going down this road we might as well get everything right (ahem*Throne of Lies*ahem) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retributis Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Not directly related but I never pass up an opportunity to link to this site: http://www.merzo.net I always find it useful for reminding myself of the scales we're dealing with in void battles :cuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Or Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 The Russvangum is referenced on p. 42 of Battle of the Fang. Its class isn't specified, but it was "built to a design now lost in the cataclysm of the heresy". I know it isn't much, but I hope it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Hmm, questionable as it means it could be like the BFG Despoiler-class which was made from the same designs as the Terminus Est and simply be a post-Heresy ship made form Heresy-era blueprints or it could be an actual Heresy-era ship. I say let it slide in with the rest just so its there and if something comes out denying it being Heresy-era, we can remove it and if something comes in saying that it is without a doubt Heresy-era, then we have some work cut out for us(and by "us", I mean Captain Semper since he's organizing it all) and just throw in the extra source. Oh, I know I said I'd get around to KNF by today, but today did not exactly go as planned so now that I am alone and in peace, I can finally get started on it. I know there's the Destiny's Hand which is Erebus' ship. Further information will come in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I know there was an Ultramarines ship named the Argo in KNF. Don't remember the page reference, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Don't worry, I'm getting there. :lol: I'm building up the list as we speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 These are from Fallen Angels by Mike Lee I Legion Decimator unknown class Grand cruiser Iron Duke Avenger class Grand cruiser Duchess Arbellatris Avenger class Grand cruiser Flamberge Infernus class Heavy cruiser Lord Dante Infernus class Heavy cruiser Amadis Strike cruiser Adzikel Strike cruiser Formidable Light cruiser Audacoius Destroyer Courageous Destroyer Hotspur Destroyer Stiletto Destroyer Rapier Destroyer Forces loyal to Horus Forinox Avenger class Grand Cruiser Leonis Avenger class Grand Cruiser Castigator Vengeance class Grand Cruiser Vindicare Vengeance class Grand Cruiser unnamed Armiger class cruiser from Battle for the Abyss by Ben Counter Ultramarines Fist of Macragge Lunar class battleship Thousand Sons Waning Moon strike cruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Alright, as promised(again) here is the list from Know No Fear by Dan Abnett. I will be listing Ship Names, then their class and tonnage(if it is mentioned) and then page number, although there may be multiple page numbers referenced if all of the information cannot be found on one or the very next page. And any special details at the end. Note, I will not be checking to see if by chance it was already mentioned in another novel that someone else has already put up so there may or may not be copies in this list. Although I doubt it. Except the Argos, Destiny's Hand and Macragge's Honour. Oh, and names are listed in order of appearance. Vessels of the XIII and at least attached to the XIII Samothrace, unknown class, cruiser, page 17 Campanile, fleet tender, page 17(wasn't sure if it was wanted or not) Macragge's honour, unknown class, battle-barge, page 42 Mlatus, unknown class, unknown tonnage, page 43 and page 112, possibly some sort of troop transport, maybe even a strike cruiser or battle-barge, as it was requesting to move troops to another ship called the High Ascent, most likely a cruiser as it was grouped with the Samothrace on the second source High Ascent, unknown class, unknown tonnage, page 43 Cavascor, unknown class, unknown tonnage, page 112, possibly a cruiser as it was grouped with the Samothrace Lutine, unknown class, unknown tonnage, page 112, possibly a cruiser as it was grouped with the Samothrace Ultis Mundi, unknown class, battleship, page 112 Testament of Andromeda, unknown class, "gargantuan carrier ship", page 112 Mlekrus, unknown class, strike craft, page 112, I take "strike craft" to mean some sort of escort-class frigate in this sense since it was big enough to have shields, masts and sensor arrays Gauntlet of Victory, unknown class, battle-barge, page 112 Gauntlet of Glory, unknown class, battle-barge, page 112 Suspiria Majestrix, unknown class, grand cruiser, page 112 Antipathy, unknown class, cruiser, page 113 Burnabus, unknown class, escort, page 113 Jeriko Rex, unknown class, escort, page 113 Menace of Fortis, unknown class, unknown tonnage, page 113 Deliverance of Terra, unknown class, unknown tonnage, page 113 Phobos Encoder, unknown class, Mechanicus Fabricator Ship, page 113, since it's a Mechanicus it may be unnecessary but perhaps if more Mechanicus ships pop up they can get their own slot perhaps? Aegis of Occluda, unknown class, unknown tonnage, page 113 Triumph of Iax, unknown class, unknown tonnage, page 114 Tarmus Usurper, unknown class, unknown tonnage, page 114 Spirit of Konor, unknown class, battleship, page 114 Antrodamicus, unknown class, grand cruiser, page 114 Johanipus Artemisia, unknown class, carrier, page 114, possibly a troop carrier or it may be a similar case to the Mlatus Remonstrance of Narthan Dume, unknown class, battleship, page 115 Sons of Ultramar, unknown class, battle-barge, page 124 Sanctity of Saramanth, unknown class, heavy cruiser, page 125 Constellation of Tarmus, unknown class, unknown tonnage, page 127 Cornucopia, unknown class, unknown tonnage, page 160 Vernax Absalom, unknown class, unknown tonnage, page 160 Gladius, unknown class, unknown tonnage, page 169 Hope of Narmenthia, unknown class, battle-barge, page 169 Valediction, unknown class, support carrier, page 169 Vospherus, unknown class, support carrier, page 169 Antropheles, unknown class, troop transport, page 169, big enough of a transport to hold a significant portion of 80,000 people Stations of Ultramar, unknown class, picket cruiser, page 169 Steinhart, unknown class, carrier, page 185 Courage of Konor, unknown class, carrier, page 185, apparently Konor is a famous person, place or event to have two ships named after, also noted to be a capital-class ship so apparently the non-specific carriers are rather big. Solonim Woe, unknown class, unknown tonnage, page 195, according to present dialogue it is the same tonnage as the Mlatus and bpth are big enough to be formation leaders. Vessels of the XVII and at least attached to the XVII/b] Infidus Imperator, unknown class, battle-barge, page 124 Crown of Colchis, unknown class, unknown tonnage, page 124 Kamiel, unknown class, battleship, page 125 Flame of Purity, Infernus-class, battleship, page 125 and page 169, in the novel Dark Creed by Anthoney Reynolds, the Infernus class is mentioned to be a battleship on the beginning of Chapter Three. Spear of Sedros, unknown class, unknown tonnage, page 125 Destiny's Hand, unknown class, battle-barge, page 125 Holy sweet mother of pearl was that list long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 This is fantastic guys! I've taken every entry in and is now in table form! I have yet to post them though as this is becoming a seriously big project and needs some better structure. Keep posting and at some point (very, very soon) I'll revert with all the info you have presented here in a way that'll be easier to access and process... ;) I think the early books would provide some material for the 16th... I'll have a look there. @ The Or: Thanks for your contribution! I'm not sure about the Russvangum. Is it a Heresy-era ship or a later construction? As this is exclusively for ships that were around during the Heresy, we need to make sure. @ Deus ex Ferrum: About the Argo (or Argos)... I've searched KNF (have it as an ebook like everything else) and nothing came up... :) Are you sure it's in there? Once again this is great! Keep going! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Phobos Encoder, unknown class, Mechanicus Fabricator Ship, page 113, since it's a Mechanicus it may be unnecessary but perhaps if more Mechanicus ships pop up they can get their own slot perhaps? I propose that until we have enough ships for the Mechanicus, we lump this one together with the Emperor's command carrier in a category labelled "Other". That way, if we get miscellaneous ships we can simply whack them there and have a 'go to' table for them (although whether or not we include Imperial Army vessels is not yet discussed or decided). Sound good to anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 I know this is highly unlikely but has anyone seen a ship of the same design as the Red Tear? Got A couple from Brotherhood of the Storm. the Swordstorm. Capital-class. Huge. Retro-fitted for speed Flagship of the V Legion, the White Scars Elective XII fleet lander Imperial Navy Logistics ship, planet fall capable And one from Fear to Tread I'm surprised no on has mentioned yet Imperator Somnium the Emperor’s command carrier interstellar craft of unique classification matched in size the great orbital plates such as Riga and Skye mass of the vessel exerts a tidal effect on the local weather systems when in close orbit and can eclipse stars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Or Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 @ The Or: Thanks for your contribution! I'm not sure about the Russvangum. Is it a Heresy-era ship or a later construction? As this is exclusively for ships that were around during the Heresy, we need to make sure. <_< IIRC there is no specific mention of it taking part in the Heresy, it is merely stated that it took part in the Scouring. So if you need to be absolutely sure then it's probably safer to leave it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 And one from Fear to Tread I'm surprised no on has mentioned yet Imperator Somnium the Emperor’s command carrier interstellar craft of unique classification matched in size the great orbital plates such as Riga and Skye mass of the vessel exerts a tidal effect on the local weather systems when in close orbit and can eclipse stars Mentioned in post #38, brother. <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 In order to make the whole project more manageable I'll close this thread and we can move the discussion in the Fleets of the Heresy thread here Keep sending your finding! :tu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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