sgt campbell Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 So what have people been using as allies and what do people think are good matches for the sisters?? I'm tempted with using grey knights means I get my assassin back in my army and 5 termies is better than 10 sisters any day! HQ wise coteaz is a bargain at 100 points just to try and get first turn plus a henchman warband could bring some much needed long range fire!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268767-best-allies/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Sounds like you'd rather being playing Grey Knights. I've been playing around with fielding a couple of Elysian veteran squads and a Vulture. The Elysians drop in in the second to third turn and toss a demo charge and a couple of krak grenades (auxiliary grenade launchers for the win!) down where it hurts, then consolidate to hold backfield objectives or terrain if they live. Generally take a Lord Commissar for the HQ to support the Conclave or Dominions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268767-best-allies/#findComment-3273703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinnerBeta Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Just IG for bodies and some auto/lascannons - I that Sisters lack those two things the most so yeah, that's my choice. Still, Assassins and Inquisitors aren't bad if you miss the old feel of Witch Hunters - which I do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268767-best-allies/#findComment-3273714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgt campbell Posted December 29, 2012 Author Share Posted December 29, 2012 Sounds like you'd rather play guard;) no sisters are my pride and joy but I don't mind playing around to make them stronger!! What's better than a demo charge? 2! could always take sly marbo as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268767-best-allies/#findComment-3273718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 lol, difference is, I'm not putting the guard in instead of something else because it's "obvious". I can't take Marbo, but I did run an amusing allied contingent with my Sisters that was 1 Commissar, 1 bare Platoon Command, 2 melta-equipped Infantry Squads, and 3 Demo Charge-equipped special weapon squads. What's better than 2 demo charges? 9 demo charges, deep striking! Mwahahaa!! I don't miss the Inquisition units, since I stopped playing them as soon as I had enough Sisters models to make an army without them. I just didn't find them useful. Occasionally amusing, and sometimes insanely lucky (10 Inquisitorial Stormtroopers taking a charge from 10 Lesser Daemons and butchering them, for example!), but always the Sisters did better. I wouldn't consider regular guard - I don't think autocannons or lascannons are really necessary since they don't work with out normal range. Lascannons have to be in that awkward place on the mid-row, while autocannons don't bring anything Exorcists can't provide. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268767-best-allies/#findComment-3273737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 So what have people been using as allies and what do people think are good matches for the sisters?? It depends on what you want to add to the list. Either Farseer with minimal amount of allied troops can give a useful anti-psyker boost. Imperial Guard or Necrons if you want their flyers. Grey Knights ... Coteaz with henchmen manning the quad-gun is effective. Or use Thawn for the ultimate "It Will Not Die" cheese list Tau can give you some long range shooting support. If you want to stay fluffy, I would say stick with Imperial Guard or, in a pinch due to old fluff since retconned, a Grey Knight Inquisitor force. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268767-best-allies/#findComment-3275250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpasaurus Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 i think guard would be nice for some high av and blast templates. i've done ok without them so far in my play tests, but something about a commissar, a bare troop choice, and a squadron of 3 leman russ tanks with battlecannons sounds really awesome. also they're battle brothers so it makes perfect sense, fluff wise. i've also looked into ways to give my ladies some lascannons, as they distinctly lack anything over s8. but with so many boots on the ground, such a set towards heavy light mech, and melta available everywhere, i think that option is less appealing to me than the tanks. if you want to not get butchered in close combat, some tac squads and a brother captain would be nice for some punchies. it would also give me an excuse to paint some imperial fists.... but again i lean to guard, better allies on the matrix, plus i run chaos so i can use that same contingent in my night lords list as traitor guard, so for me it's pretty obviously guard, just a matter of what to take... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268767-best-allies/#findComment-3279141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpasaurus Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 ugh error lead to double post. sorry ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268767-best-allies/#findComment-3279147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I've been waiting for the Dark Angels codex to come out for months, because I want to have a small force of scoring Terminators drop in and assist my Sisters. Has anyone done this with the older DA, or is anyone else contemplating this with the new DA too? Mostly I'm thinking SoB squads backed by two Exorcists and a Retributors squad with HB as a main force. Set up a gunline with the Sisters and use the teleporting TDA to hit the enemy rear (or priority targets). Sort of a hammer and anvil thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268767-best-allies/#findComment-3282094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 New codex? Azrael + DWK + a Scout squad is probably your best bet if you want a hammer force of Terminators. If they can support some Seraphim, all the better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268767-best-allies/#findComment-3282155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATPete Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Imperial Guard are handy to bring some long ranged firepower to the table. ...but I just run them so I can take hellhounds. It's not possible to have too many flame weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268767-best-allies/#findComment-3282419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Yes it is. You could be fighting the NAF or mechanised Elysians. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268767-best-allies/#findComment-3282763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Indeed, like many I think Guard are a great complement to Sisters but to be fair you could easily argue the same thing for any Imperial army. It's nice and fluffy too. I love the Fast Attack options for the Guard - not just because of more flames. That said if Sisters don't get an inferno cannon in our update then I'm going to be very sad. Like a sad panda, and nobody wants that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268767-best-allies/#findComment-3282833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I've never seen a sad panda. They mostly just look kinda apathetic... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268767-best-allies/#findComment-3282853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obliterator Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I've been waiting for the Dark Angels codex to come out for months, because I want to have a small force of scoring Terminators drop in and assist my Sisters. Unfortunatelly, you can only have scoring Terminators with Grey Knight allies. Deathwing can't be made scoring in an allied detachment :( If I use allies for my Sisters, it'll be Coteaz with some henchmen (3 heavy bolter servitors, 2 Jokaero gunsmiths) to man the quad gun on my bastion. "I've been expecting you" in a 24" bubble to keep my Exorcists safe® from podding/deep striking meltaguns, Retributors in the bastion so I can have 5 rending heavy bolters, and a Vindicare because I got the model painted up anyway from back when Witchhunters could still use them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268767-best-allies/#findComment-3282979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I've been waiting for the Dark Angels codex to come out for months, because I want to have a small force of scoring Terminators drop in and assist my Sisters. Unfortunatelly, you can only have scoring Terminators with Grey Knight allies. Deathwing can't be made scoring in an allied detachment ...Crud. I went back and had a look at both the new DA and the CSM books, and the little blurbs do indeed make sure that FOC changing abilities are limited to Primary Detachments. This must be the new way of things. I will still be going with the new DA codex for my Terminator-themed loyalists, though. I'll just add a Tac or Scout squad for allying in with Sisters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268767-best-allies/#findComment-3283785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I've never seen a sad panda. They mostly just look kinda apathetic...Then pray that you never do - GW you know what must be done to avoid this great calamity befalling mankind I should add I liked the Inquisitorial elements as an option back in the day so the Guard do a good job as standing in for them. Especially since my Guard are an Inquisitor's personal army in their fluff Regarding Marines I've always used Sisters as the allied force (again, going back a bit) as I've never thought Marines really bring anything worthwhile to the Sisterhood. I doubt that has changed in 6th but if anyone can attest otherwise I might give it a go. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268767-best-allies/#findComment-3284040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Well, as I was discussing in another thread, a small allied Blood Angel force can really bring out our cityfight specialisation - a scout squad for objective camping, then a vindicator and a Flamestorm Bhaal Predator will have great synergy with our Dominions and building-sweeper units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268767-best-allies/#findComment-3284079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haranin Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 IG are obvious for the firepower; but the new ravenwing bike squad with the grenade launcher and the fighter with the I/WS nerf bomb could complement assualty SOB nicely. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268767-best-allies/#findComment-3284088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I've been waiting for the Dark Angels codex to come out for months, because I want to have a small force of scoring Terminators drop in and assist my Sisters. Unfortunatelly, you can only have scoring Terminators with Grey Knight allies. Deathwing can't be made scoring in an allied detachment Can you tell me where this changed? I looked through the new codex last night but as far as I can tell, if you take Belial (or Ezekiel) you can take terminator squads as your allied troops. Did I miss something somewhere? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268767-best-allies/#findComment-3284299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewm9 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I've been waiting for the Dark Angels codex to come out for months, because I want to have a small force of scoring Terminators drop in and assist my Sisters. Unfortunatelly, you can only have scoring Terminators with Grey Knight allies. Deathwing can't be made scoring in an allied detachment Can you tell me where this changed? I looked through the new codex last night but as far as I can tell, if you take Belial (or Ezekiel) you can take terminator squads as your allied troops. Did I miss something somewhere? Because the rules say if he is in the primary detachment they may be taken as troops. As part of the allied detachment, that rule does not apply. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268767-best-allies/#findComment-3284346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Thanks! Not sure how I missed that. I was probably reading what I thought should be there instead of what was actually there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268767-best-allies/#findComment-3284382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpasaurus Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Well, as I was discussing in another thread, a small allied Blood Angel force can really bring out our cityfight specialisation - a scout squad for objective camping, then a vindicator and a Flamestorm Bhaal Predator will have great synergy with our Dominions and building-sweeper units. oooh very good point, i hadn't thought of that yet! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268767-best-allies/#findComment-3284723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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