*Furyou Miko Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Two lists - 500 points for combat patrol, and a 2000 point list for general use. Let me know what you think? +++ Combat Patrol (500pts) +++ +++ 500pt Ordo Reductor remnants Roster (Primary Detachment)) +++ Selections: Ordo Reductor remnants (Primary Detachment) Selections: + HQ + * Magos Calleb Decima (Battlesmith, Castellan Destructor, Curse of the Omnissiah, Master of Destruction) Machinator Array, Master-crafted Bolt Pistol, Master-crafted Power Axe, Melta Bombs, Refractor Field + Troops + * Ordo Reductor Thallaxi Cohort Multi-laser, Phase-plasma Fusil * Thallax (Bulky, Djinn-sight, Stubborn) Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Lightning Gun, Lorica Thallax * Thallax (Bulky, Djinn-sight, Stubborn) Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Lightning Gun, Lorica Thallax * Thallax (Bulky, Djinn-sight, Stubborn) Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Lightning Gun, Lorica Thallax * Ordo Reductor Thallaxi Cohort Icarian, Multi-Melta * Thallax (Bulky, Djinn-sight, Stubborn) Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Lightning Gun, Lorica Thallax * Thallax (Bulky, Djinn-sight, Stubborn) Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Lightning Gun, Lorica Thallax * Thallax (Bulky, Djinn-sight, Stubborn) Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Lightning Gun, Lorica Thallax Created with BattleScribe +++ General Combat (1996pts) +++ +++ 2000pt Ordo Reductor remnants Roster (Primary Detachment)) +++ Selections: Ordo Reductor remnants (Primary Detachment) Selections: + HQ + * Magos Calleb Decima (Battlesmith, Castellan Destructor, Curse of the Omnissiah, Master of Destruction) Machinator Array, Master-crafted Bolt Pistol, Master-crafted Power Axe, Melta Bombs, Refractor Field + Elites + * Ordo Reductor Myrmidon Cohort * Myrmidon (Battlesmith, Stubborn) Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Cyber-Familiar, Plasma Pistol, Rad Grenades, Servo-arm, Thunder Hammer * Servitor-Automata (Cybernetica) Close Combat Weapon, Flamer * Servitor-Automata (Cybernetica) Close Combat Weapon, Flamer * Servitor-Automata (Cybernetica) Close Combat Weapon, Power Fist * Servitor-Automata (Cybernetica) Close Combat Weapon, Power Fist * Myrmidon (Battlesmith, Stubborn) Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Conversion Beamer, Nuncio-Vox, Power Axe * Servitor-Automata (Cybernetica) Close Combat Weapon, Rotor Cannon * Servitor-Automata (Cybernetica) Close Combat Weapon, Rotor Cannon * Servitor-Automata (Cybernetica) Close Combat Weapon, Rotor Cannon * Servitor-Automata (Cybernetica) Close Combat Weapon, Rotor Cannon * Rhino APC (Repair, Transport Capacity (10 non-bulky)) Heavy Flamer, Hunter-killer Missile, Searchlight, Smoke Launcher, Twin-linked Bolter + Troops + * Ordo Reductor Thallaxi Cohort * 3 Thallaxi (Bulky, Djinn-sight, Stubborn) Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Lightning Gun, Lorica Thallax Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Photon Thruster Cannon, Lorica Thallax * Mechanicum Land Raider (Blessed Autosimulacra, Transport Capacity (10)) Anbaric Claw, Armoured Ceramite, Auxiliary Drive, Flare Shield, Frag Assault Launchers, Graviton Cannon, Machine Spirit, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Two single Flamestorm Cannons * Ordo Reductor Thallaxi Cohort * 3 Icarian Thallaxi (Bulky, Djinn-sight, Stubborn, Skyfire) Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Lightning Gun, Lorica Thallax * Icarian Thallax (Bulky, Djinn-sight, Stubborn, Skyfire) Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Multi-melta, Lorica Thallax * Mechanicum Land Raider (Blessed Autosimulacra, Transport Capacity (10)) Anbaric Claw, Armoured Ceramite, Auxiliary Drive, Explorator Augury Web, Flare Shield, Machine Spirit, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Two single Plasma Cannons, Volkite Culvarin + Heavy Support + * Mobile Seige Engine Battery * Basilisk Earthshaker Cannon, Heavy Bolter, Searchlight, Smoke Launcher * Basilisk Earthshaker Cannon, Heavy Bolter, Searchlight, Smoke Launcher * Whirlwind Pintle-mounted Twin-linked Bolter, Searchlight, Smoke Launcher, Twin-linked Bolter, Whirlwind Launcher with Castellan and Vengeance Missiles Created with BattleScribe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271568-ordo-reductor-lists/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr Shepard Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 The vehicles in a Legion Artillery Squadron (your Mobile Seige Engine Battery is de facto a Legion Artillery Squadron) must belong to the same type. So, sadly, you cannot field 2 Basilisks and 1 Whirlwind. The unit entry says " Unit Composition: 1-3 tanks chosen from one of the following types etc). I'd like to discuss about the rest of the army but currently I'm plagued by a terrible flu and I can barely type on the keyboard. As soon as I'll be "fully operational" I'll be more than glad to share my opinions on the armies. Ordo reductor army list from Betrayal is the first official AdeMech army so I'm very interested in it. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271568-ordo-reductor-lists/#findComment-3309778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 Damn, I didn't notice that. >< Means reworking everything because of the points difference (was hoping for some sneaky Gryphon-like barrage accuracy there). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271568-ordo-reductor-lists/#findComment-3310094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr Shepard Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Damn, I didn't notice that. >< Means reworking everything because of the points difference (was hoping for some sneaky Gryphon-like barrage accuracy there). Don't worry Tech Adept ;)... I doubt it will invalidate your army's effectiveness. Personally I'd go with two Basilisks or three Whirlwind and put the points in something else. I'd choose the two basilisks: the rule for multiple barrage shots will translate the additional basilisk in more hits only against hordes. If you target is on a ruin's floor you will rarely gad the chance to hit more targets than your first blast marker would. I'd suggest to give Calleb his retinue of servo-automata since his is not IC and he some ablative wound may keep your Warloard alive for longer. I'd also prefer more Thallax than the count-as Techmarine units. Thallax are among the most powerful troop choices in the game (if there are more powerful troop choices I forgott feel free to correct me ;) ) The also came with a S7, rending and shred base weapon they can use with the famous (some player will call it infamous ) Jump-Shoot-Jump tactic since they are Jet Pack infantry. And consider we don't even started to mention all the upgrade they can take! Truly amazing unit, in my opinion so I'd allocate more points to them and less on the Techmarines. I hope it helped... if you have other question/ideas/opinions I'll be more than glad to continue the brainstorming ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271568-ordo-reductor-lists/#findComment-3311541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 Didn't notice he's not an IC either (which is silly, since I wrote that battlescribe file). I've been seriously underestimating Thallaxii, thinking about it - and rereading their rules. The Lightning Gun is so strong you almost wonder why you'd want to swap it for a phase-plasma fusil! How about... +++ General (2000pts) +++ +++ 2000pt Ordo Reductor remnants Roster (Primary Detachment)) +++ Selections: Ordo Reductor remnants (Primary Detachment) Selections: + HQ + * Magos Calleb Decima (Battlesmith, Castellan Destructor, Curse of the Omnissiah, Master of Destruction) Cyber-Familiar, Machinator Array, Master-crafted Bolt Pistol, Master-crafted Power Axe, Melta Bombs, Refractor Field * Mechanicum Land Raider (Blessed Autosimulacra, Transport Capacity (10)) Anbaric Claw, Armoured Ceramite, Auxiliary Drive, Explorator Augury Web, Flare Shield, Frag Assault Launchers, Machine Spirit, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Two single Flamestorm Cannons, Volkite Culvarin * 2 Servitor-Automata (Cybernetica) Close Combat Weapon, Flamer * 3 Servitor-Automata (Cybernetica) Close Combat Weapon, Power Fist + Troops + * Ordo Reductor Thallaxii-Icarian Cohort * Mechanicum Land Raider (Blessed Autosimulacra, Transport Capacity (10)) Anbaric Claw, Armoured Ceramite, Auxiliary Drive, Flare Shield, Machine Spirit, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Twin-linked Phase Plasma Fusil, Two single Plasma Cannons * Thallax (Bulky, Djinn-sight, Icarian, Stubborn) Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Multi-melta, Lorica Thallax * 4 Thallaxii (Bulky, Djinn-sight, Icarian, Stubborn) Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Lightning Gun, Lorica Thallax * Ordo Reductor Thallaxi-Destructor Cohort * 2 Thallaxii (Bulky, Djinn-sight, Tank Hunters, Stubborn) Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Photon Thruster Cannon, Lorica Thallax * 4 Thallaxii (Bulky, Djinn-sight, Tank Hunters, Stubborn) Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Lightning Gun, Lorica Thallax * Ordo Reductor Thallaxi-Empyrite Cohort * Thallax (Bulky, Djinn-sight, Deep Strike, Stubborn) Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Irrad-Cleanser, Lorica Thallax * 3 Thallaxii (Bulky, Djinn-sight, Deep Strike, Stubborn) Frag Grenades, Heavy Chainblade, Lightning Gun, Lorica Thallax + Heavy Support + * Mobile Seige Engine Battery * Basilisk Earthshaker Cannon, Heavy Bolter, Searchlight, Smoke Launcher * Basilisk Earthshaker Cannon, Heavy Bolter, Searchlight, Smoke Launcher Created with BattleScribe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271568-ordo-reductor-lists/#findComment-3311659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr Shepard Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Didn't notice he's not an IC either (which is silly, since I wrote that battlescribe file). I've been seriously underestimating Thallaxii, thinking about it - and rereading their rules. The Lightning Gun is so strong you almost wonder why you'd want to swap it for a phase-plasma fusil! I'm glad to see I'm not the only one to keep Lightning Gun is high regards ;) Talking about your new list. 1. I strongly agree with your decision to put Caleb in a Land Raider since it will increase his survivability while giving you access to a quite customizable Land Raider. Keep in mind AdMech LR does not have the Assault Vehicle rule. 2. Equiping Caleb and retinue for CC is a good idea since its the only melee unit "pure" Ordo Reductor lists can field. You want your Thallax to shoot ;) 3.Icarian+ multi melta was the very idea I have so I strongly approve it ;) 4. I'm unsure about the second Land Raider. It will useful to create target saturation but I wonder if those points wouldn'd be useful for more Thallax. 5. What's your plan for the Explorator augury web? Scout is interesting but I can tell by persona experience scouting a single Land Raider is most of the times "useless" or "dangerous". I explain. I used a unit of Rampagers as Angron's "retinue" a couple of times and I gave them the Land Raider dedicated transport in order to make rush to the enemy lines. Everytime the redeployment was unecessary because if I used both it and the full movement I would have put the Land Raider in the middle of the enemy lines with nothing suppoerting it and unable to charge on the first turn. So every time the redoployment+movement distance was nearly equal to a full turn movement. Perhaps I gained the chance to fire one more weapon at full BS but consider if it worth the cost of the augury web. Disrupting enemy reserves may be interesting but once more is it worth its cost? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271568-ordo-reductor-lists/#findComment-3311756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 I was using the second land raider to carry the blast ordnance mostly, since it's not great as a transport for five jetpack infantry. heh. Not being an assault vehicle makes the frag assault launchers kind of pointless, and since it can take them, I'm wondering if that's an errata issue (like the lack of Blessed Autosimulacra being detailed anywhere). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271568-ordo-reductor-lists/#findComment-3311795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr Shepard Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I was using the second land raider to carry the blast ordnance mostly, since it's not great as a transport for five jetpack infantry. heh. Not being an assault vehicle makes the frag assault launchers kind of pointless, and since it can take them, I'm wondering if that's an errata issue (like the lack of Blessed Autosimulacra being detailed anywhere). What do you mean with "carry the blast ordnance"? Do you mean you want it to "protect/escorts" your basilisks? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271568-ordo-reductor-lists/#findComment-3313047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share Posted February 25, 2013 No, I meant I mounted plasma cannons on it. Poor wording on my part, since Ordnance is a specific thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271568-ordo-reductor-lists/#findComment-3314301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavel Araghast Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Really interesting list with new awesome Thallaxi models will play really great I think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271568-ordo-reductor-lists/#findComment-3337655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malach Adonai Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Have you gotten around to testing these lists yet? How do you prefer to use your Thallax? I'd be thrilled to hear your thoughts and experiences. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271568-ordo-reductor-lists/#findComment-3381531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronozoah Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 My apologies in advance for the bump. Have you had opportunity to test either of these lists? It would be good to hear of any thoughts and experiences you may have had regarding these and the army in general. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271568-ordo-reductor-lists/#findComment-3511558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sicarius123 Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 I'd also prefer more Thallax than the count-as Techmarine units. Thallax are among the most powerful troop choices in the game r. Have you seen the castellax rules yet, the're insane. I have only just got onto this forum so am I allowed to post the profiles or not? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271568-ordo-reductor-lists/#findComment-3512810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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