I am angry

[Aqui]

 

I remember reading once that ADB either wanted to write a Sisters story, or was going to.

I saw a mention of this at one point on his FB and I'm pretty sure I brought it up here (with obvious glee) however I've seen nothing on it since. I'm certain I'd enjoy it, but it may just be rumor/a joke/my insane imagination.

 

One question I have...whether Sisters are incorruptible or not, when a sole surviving Canoness shows up and says "Hey, I killed my entire order because they were corrupted" any self-respecting Inquisitor would put a bolt through her noggin to "finish the deal". That's the Imperium's traditional method for dealing with corruption: kill the planet, erase the chapter, expunge all evidence. I don't see this canoness being excused from that. Maybe that's just me though. <3

 

 

It was your post that I read (and then on his Word press account)  http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258704-a-d-b-to-write-a-sisters-of-battle-story/

 

Pity that there's been nothing new though :(

[Inquisitor Fox]

Pity that there's been nothing new though

Now now, "Faith is our Shield" and that's one quality the Sisterhood has in abundance. It was said, it was screencapped, it wasn't denied, ergo it's happening. At some point, at some when we might get more news. Until then keep the faith.

Unless you need to burn it to blow away some heretical scum, then use all the Faith you have available. ;)

[*Furyou Miko]

Remember, Sisters. A shield won't do much good if it's hanging by your side.

 

I've since been told by someone who had a reviewer copy of the book that Setheno (apparently WD didn't even get her name right) is actually on the Black Dragons' side, fighting for their right to exist as mutated freaks... so yeah, she's probably the corrupt one. Either that or the 'taint' (which apparently is all that's said about why she called the Inquisition down on her order) was actually a mutation issue and she feels horrible guilty for getting them all killed.

[Aqui]

Pity that there's been nothing new though

Now now, "Faith is our Shield" and that's one quality the Sisterhood has in abundance. It was said, it was screencapped, it wasn't denied, ergo it's happening. At some point, at some when we might get more news. Until then keep the faith.

Unless you need to burn it to blow away some heretical scum, then use all the Faith you have available.

I lost most of my faith (such as it is :lol: ) when I asked BL on their FB page recently if there was ever going to be any novels about a certain Ultra Marine successor

Rainbow Warriors

, and their polite reply was effectively "They're mentioned in an audio drama". Yes, well that really satisfies me, thank you so much <_< :(

Damn it, if it wasn't for the fact that I doubt they'd go for it, I'd consider writing a story for Sisters and said UM successor for free or a pitance, if it got them in print :(

[*Furyou Miko]

Seriously, Aquilanus, write them anyway and send them off during the submissions window. The worst they can do is say 'no'. They only accept short stories now, officially, although some sneaky tips;

 

- If you're already published somewhere (even if it's just a column in a fringe magazine), you're more likely to get through

- Online self-publishing goes the other way, sadly

- Don't try to be too original or outside the box

- Don't get too attached to your original story proposition. If they like your style, they may ask you to write something else.

- Read up on Hammer and Bolter so you know what kinds of things are being published at the moment, short story wise.

[aquamarine]

Just come from the discussion on self-defeating Marine fluff, and I think maybe there's the same problem here from GW:

Melodrama.

Jeez, look! She executed her own entire order! Are you impressed enough yet?

Maybe there's a competition in this, what's the most melodramatic plot point by GW you know of...?

[Aqui]

Seriously, Aquilanus, write them anyway and send them off during the submissions window. The worst they can do is say 'no'. They only accept short stories now, officially, although some sneaky tips;

 

- If you're already published somewhere (even if it's just a column in a fringe magazine), you're more likely to get through

- Online self-publishing goes the other way, sadly

- Don't try to be too original or outside the box

- Don't get too attached to your original story proposition. If they like your style, they may ask you to write something else.

- Read up on Hammer and Bolter so you know what kinds of things are being published at the moment, short story wise.

 

I'll have to have a think about what I'd write, but I've been thinking about it all day at work (first day back after six weeks, so mind wandered :lol: )

 

The nearest thing to anything I've had printed was a paper fanzine from 10-15 years ago on the UK Anime Convention circuit :lol: certainly nothing I'd stick under their noses, as I'd like to think my writing has come on a bit since then :lol:

 

If I do send something, it'll be something different to what I'm working on as like you said, they tend to avoid anything that's been online.

 

I'll keep everyone informed if I have something worth* sending to them.

 

*A relative term to be sure, but anyway...

[*Furyou Miko]

I am lazy, but when I get my backside in gear I plan to send articles in to a mouse fancier magazine my partner subscribes to on 'living with fanciers'. heh.

[WarriorFish]

I don't want to sound too long in the tooth but at this stage I just shrug and move on. There's terrible writers and awful plot devices everywhere and our hobby is very far from safe from their baleful touch. If anything I'm glad they resort to such poor tricks as it helps me quickly identify who is not worth reading

I am picky about what I read anyway as life's too short for a bad book. I've often thought about small prose or other forms of media to better paint the Sisters in the light they deserve (the Emperor's light, naturally) but I don't have the time that such a project would require. In particular I've always wanted to make a small Sisters game of some type, but I wouldn't want to put any time into something that is almost certain to have GW IP ninja crawling over my walls

[mactire]

Why dont they release one plastic box set of sisters with all weapons options and have done with it. It does seem unfair that they dont have any new models, i think one box set like the wolves or death company would keep a lot of people happy with loads of converting options, you could even mix match with plastic SM or even DE wytches for weapon/headswaps. With the new allies rules i think alot of SM players would use them. Just my two cents worth

[thade]

Why dont they release one plastic box set of sisters with all weapons options and have done with it. It does seem unfair that they dont have any new models....

My guess (which is just pessimistic speculation) is that they don't believe the cost of designing, producing, and shipping plastic Sisters will make them as much money as doing the same thing for Yet Another Space Marine Chapter. That said, the WD mags with the Sisters rules in them all sold out pretty quickly, so I may be gleefully wrong. I'll lead the parade if they drop a Sisters codex and a plastic kit for them.

 

They also have the digital distribution vector now, and a PDF book is way cheaper to produce and distribute than a real one...the profit margin on them would be huge. I hope against hope that they make digital codecies for Sisters, Daemonhunters, Witchhunters, and maybe the Rogue Trader codex I've always wanted. They could let us figure out the models. <3

 

Maybe some day. In the meantime, Sisters models are still some of the coolest, and their background as well. So, it could be worse.

[Wade Garrett]

Well, I just finished my copy of "Death of Antagonist" and let me set a few things straight:

 

Canoness Errant Setheno didn't kill her entire order single handedly and then tell the Inquisition "It's okay, they were heretics." She uncovered taint (nobody's sure what) denounced the order to the Inquisition, and then lead the overwhelming force of the Orders Militant against her former sisters.

 

As for her character...if I said Loyalist Female Zso Sahaal would that get my point across? (Is meant as compliment).

 

In other news, Sergeant Volos is best Assault Sgt.

[*Furyou Miko]

It wasn't so much the idea of her doing it single-handedly that annoyed me, Wade, it was the idea that an entire Order could become heretic at all.

 

Since it turns out from actually reading the book, instead of the "review" from WD magazine that the order weren't corrupt or heretic, just 'tainted' (which could simply mean that they were starting to mutate through sheer warp exposure, which their faith can't do much about), I've calmed down somewhat and am now merely annoyed at the awful article in white dwarf - which, by the way, can't even spell 'Setheno' (they called her Stheno).

 

Volos is a stage one warp talon and should be purged. Preferably by Setheno.

[Wade Garrett]

And then we can purge Marneus Calgar (took the gauntlets of Ultramar from a Chaos Champion), Logan Grimnar (forged the Axe of Morkai from a daemon weapon), the Carcharadons (Shark Marines! Everything you feared about Space Marines plus everything you hate about sharks!) and the Ogryn.

 

The Ogryn may be the most on point example, given that the Black Dragon's deviation from human norms all follow the same general pattern, and Chaos taint tends to be more random (See the Soul Drinkers. Spider Chapter Master, Spider Chapter Master. Can he swing, by a thread...) and as I said, Marines with Warp weaponry are nothing new.

 

And then, Wade was shot by Inquisitor Jarlsdottyr for being an Emperor forsaken radical.

[*Furyou Miko]

Sounds like a plan.

[Eddie Orlock]

Previous Imperial doctorine had been based on whither the mutation bred true. Ogryn were fine because Ogryns begat more Ogryns. Ratlings begat more Ratlings. Squats begat more Squats. Beastmen begat more Beastmen. Navigators begat more Navigators. So on begat more so forth. Just 'cause they're all a little inbred and have webbed toes doesn't make them pawns of chaos. What should have happend is a brief captive breeding program to inspect the whelps and compare them to the originals. If they had the same webbed toe mutation then it's probably onside. The Fickle gifts of the warp entities don't breed true.

 

This is how the Black Dragons get by, They always and only develop the bony protrusions. By Space Marine standards they 'breed' true, ditto for the dentition of the Space Sharks and the Space Wolves. I'm fairly certain that GeneSeed from the Soul Drinkers Chaos Lord would not yield more Spider Marines, and thus not breeding true should be purged.

[Inquisitor Fox]

I also suspect the pragmatic Inquisition looks at overall usefulness to the Imperium (Ogryn, Ratlings, Navigators) and being "within-X-standard-deviations-of-the-mean" as far as closeness to overall human DNA or somesuch thing.  Something along the lines of:

 

"If the magic paddledisk turns green when injected by a sample of the life's fluid of the accused, they are deemed holy.  Should it turn red shall they be bathed with the Emperor's fire for they are unpure."

 

Or something... add Black Library bells and whistles here :)

[thade]

They could purge Ogryns and Ratlings at a whim if they wished. That's not really the case for the Navigators or any Space Marine chapters.

 

The Navigators Guild has very, very old pacts with just about every organization under the Imperium's umbrella, from the Adeptus branches to the Inquisition itself; they are a very powerful organization in their own right. The reason they are powerful is that, without them, the Imperium could not exist: we need them in order to effectively (or, at least, safely) pilot through the warp.

 

Space Marine chapters also have very, very old and powerful pacts with everyone else, and are (as befits the Emperor's "angels") the best fighting forces the Imperium has to offer. Picking a fight with a chapter of Adeptus Astartes is a rather big ordeal, especially if the desired target is one of the original legions. The Ecclesiarchy might want to be rid of one or more SM chapters for various reasons (and, indeed, they've tried here or there to pick a fight) but 1. Space Marines are incredibly dangerous opponents, 2. incredibly dangerous opponents cost big time in resources, and 3. in-fighting is, in general, a bad idea. With some notable exceptions due to what one might deem notable idiocy (or, best case, some severe cascades of communication break downs) the powers-that-be try to avoid it.

 

So, usefulness is definitely a factor, but it's not the only one. Resource constraints, risk management, and very long memories keep things from boiling over. For the most part.

[Vengence_Angel]

just a heads up this is my first post but here goes

 

Firstly i agree that the the sisters of battle appear to be showing up frequently as the butt of someone else's 'Look at me i'm so awesome' event and the Grey cough*khornite*cough Knight event still has me scratching my head (need holy blood to protect us from what we're immune to???)

 

Secondly a partialy good depiction of what i believe the sisters of battle should be like exists threaded into the 'Lost and the Damned' book, not that i have read many of the black library books.

Don't know how to do the spoiler thing so one section in bare bones, SM captain says help save planet, SOB cannoess replies no we're only here to protect X

in essence Ovaries, Big brass ones

[Inquisitor Fox]

in essence Ovaries, Big brass ones

That is my new favorite saying concerning the Adepta Sororitas... :)

EDIT: More properly, welcome to the B&C!

[Aqui]

I'll lead the parade if they drop a Sisters codex and a plastic kit for them.

 

So would I.  I'd gladly put the vast majority of the DIY Marine Chapters and my Biel Tan army on hold if they did this.  GW - read my lips;  I would gladly get 2k worth of Sisters IF they get a decent "proper" Codex and PLASTIC Sisters.  This I vow, or I wake up one day as a boil on Nurgles' arse!

[Knight of the Raven]

Even if they're $50 for five sisters, as they're bound to be by the time plastics come?

I've only read Faith and Fire and Hammer and Anvil but I found each antagonist more interesting than all the protagonists combined. Perhaps more competent as well.

[*Furyou Miko]

That's because A) James Swallow isn't the greatest writer on GW's payroll, B) Faith and Fire was written as a "token Sisters book" and therefore was poorly concieved, and C) Hammer and Anvil was a written to sell the Necron codex.

[Vengence_Angel]

Even if they're $50 for five sisters, as they're bound to be by the time plastics come?

 

for me given that currently a set of three metal sisters is $29 aus, and the specialist / heavy weapons ar between $17 to $23. thus assuming 7 sisters 1 special 1 heavy 1 sister superior = $129 with no conversion options. Plus that the aus dollar is better currently than the american......  YES GLADLY!

[shortysl]

It doesn't explicitly state that the Order became heretics, only that the Canoness was so devout that she eradicated the order for heresy. She may have just levelled the charge at the order and gone from there. Doesn't necessarily mean that the charge was legitimate. Maybe she's just kind of well, mental.

 

Gregor Eisenhorn was labelled a heretic, yet he remained loyal to the Emperor and Imperium to the last.

 

I wouldn't put too much stock in it. The label of heretic is thrown around a lot in the Imperium, usualy as a scare tactic. You could just interpret this information to mean that the Canoness is the kind of person who screams heretic if you mispronounce a word in an Imperial hymn, and so thought nothing of annihilating an entire order for failing to meet her unattainable standards.

 

Just a thought Miko.