L30n1d4s Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I have not tried this, but I am very interested in the synergy using three Maulerfiends, Winged Prince, and an allied Greater Daemon (probably a Bloodthirster) to get in the enemy's face turn 1, setting up a turn 2 assault and presenting a multitiude of high threat targets to the enemy. Backed up by cheap scoring units (Cultists blobs + allied Plaguebearers) and some fire support (Heldrakes and Nurgle Soulgrinder), I think this could be a fun and competitive list to play. Anyone have any experience using something like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurfalypse Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I have run two with some Bikers and it worked out really well. I like the idea of a Thirster or Keeper of Secrets following following with the Maulerfiends. Should provide a fair amount of saturation and speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 The problem with such a set up right not is that it is more effcient to run demons and get the same type of army only with better synergy and rules[flyer > walker]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crucial Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 IMO (without actually using one) Maulerfiends seem to be a unit that too alot of flak when we first cast our eyes on their rules half a year ago, But they have climbed the ladder ever since The problem with such a set up right not is that it is more effcient to run demons and get the same type of army only with better synergy and rules[flyer > walker]. But maulerfiends are a meager 125pts,,, DP's are going to be 220pts before rewards, so around 260pts. Also 3xDPs + 2xgreater daemons is around 1300pts already - unfeasably high for 1500pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 It's very much doable. I'm tempted to agree with the jeske that doing a daemon/CSM combo might be better. Soul Grinders are nearly as cheap, provide armor saturation and come with AV13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AekoldHelbrass Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Run them with Decimator and Skarbrand or KoS instead of Bloodthirster and you have yourself a monster rush! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I've actually started to consider using a single Maulerfiend with lashers as an interceptor unit. Catch those annoying bikers or wraiths in combat and tying them up before they hit anything more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurfalypse Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Running an 1850 list today with x2 Maulerfiends and x3 CSM squads in Rhinos so will see how it all holds up. Will report back tonight or tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Could try a list like this: Juggerlord 1755 Spawn 1505 Spawn; MoN 1805 Spawn; MoN 18010 CSM; AC + Plasma 16510 CSM; AC + Plasma 16510 CSM; AC + Plasma 16510 CSM; AC + Plasma 165Maulerfiend; tendrils 135Maulerfiend; tendrils 135Maulerfiend; tendrils 135 It's one I'd like to try out if I ever got all the models. Zhukov helped me with it, I think it'd be alot of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 yeah . big problem with that list is that it just cant deal with any form of flyers and is very depanded on the maulers surviving turn 1-2. Not saying it aint possible[the spawn and lord are there to help with that] , but when they dont the list falls over . good against pure IG , but horrible against meq swarms [too few attacks on maulers and SW can beat 5 spawns through combination of shoting and melee]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Sage Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 IMO (without actually using one) Maulerfiends seem to be a unit that too alot of flak when we first cast our eyes on their rules half a year ago, But they have climbed the ladder ever since The problem with such a set up right not is that it is more effcient to run demons and get the same type of army only with better synergy and rules[flyer > walker]. But maulerfiends are a meager 125pts,,, DP's are going to be 220pts before rewards, so around 260pts. Also 3xDPs + 2xgreater daemons is around 1300pts already - unfeasably high for 1500pts Short comment: in the chaos forum on B&C, you will find that every single unit in the dex gets/got a lot of flakk. Very often, it will (would) not matter if the unit in question is actually decent in some/many lists, some will still aim their flakk artillery and press the button regardless. Rationality doesn`t always come into the equation. I note with a certain ammount of amusement that the Heldragon is now "the unit". When it came out (true, before faq, but even without 360degrees radius, it was still a good flier, though since it was not OP Vendetta it sucked according to the many geniouses on this sub forum), it was "Da :cuss" while extremly good equipment like the Bruning Brand was called merely "decent" by certain loud people. Anyways, in latter years the Chaos Sub forums on B&C very much personifies internet whine (previously, Warseer used to be the site for 40K whine, though this forum has indeed deteriorated to become pretty much like that place in latter years sadly), and just like the day turns to night, you can also trust this forum to stay solidly negative until proven most definitly to be wrong by hard empircal evidence. Only then, for a short time, will the complaints stop and you will see words like "decent", "okay-ish" and "not as bad as I originally though/predictedt" and so forth and so on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I note with a certain ammount of amusement that the Heldragon is now "the unit". When it came out (true, before faq, but even without 360degrees radius, it was still a good flier, though since it was not OP Vendetta it sucked according to the many geniouses on this sub forum), it was "Da :cuss" while extremly good equipment like the Bruning Brand was called merely "decent" by certain loud people. you could at least use my name . I havent changed my view on the drake . The fact that it is one of the best chaos unit doesnt make it a 3ed eldar star cannon or a GK 5th fortitude rifleman . It is high cost and very random in use [+3match ups , pre faq flaming and vectoring was a problem , they still have to play 2vs3-4+ in loyalist armies and when tau come out will have to deal with shield drones tanking the flamer wounds , they had problems with that already playing against SW armies using termi WGs and rune armored HQs]. , unless we take 3 , but then we leave all our anti av13+ in the hands of oblits and again as great as they maybe the weapons rule change was a huge blow to them. But maulerfiends are a meager 125pts,,, DP's are going to be 220pts before rewards, so around 260pts. Also 3xDPs + 2xgreater daemons is around 1300pts already - unfeasably high for 1500pts 2 things . A playing demons at 1500pts is too random , there is too much that can blow then up before they get in to melee range and FMC while awesome do get grounded . B it is true that it would be hard to put 3 FMC and 2GD in to a 1500pts army but you can easily fit 4 either 1 GD and 3 Princes or 2 GD and 2 princes 1 grinder just by taking bearers as troops . It is no nidzilla , but it aint chaos demons foult they dont have MC in troops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Sage Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I didn`t use your name because I actually did not think about you when I wrote this, or at the very least, not you alone. You might (or maybe you have not) have noticed that I have written at the very least, two posts in the past where I have lauded you as someone very knowledgable and I sincerly respect your knowledge of game mechanics and list building and so forth.. True, you sing the same tune and its tedious and quite limited, but no, Jeske, I did not think about you. There are people infinatly worse than you when it comes to "whine-level" to say the least ;) Your just damnably repetative with your Guard/Wolves, but I have never questioned your knowledge or abillity to think rational. True, I think your at times exceptionally narrowminded, but thats something entirely different. As for "naming" in general, I don`t feel comfortable writing a "list" of the worst "whiners". You would hardly, hardly top that list though, which I can tell you since you actually asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornelias Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I'm with you on that Iron Sage, mostly the reason i no longer interact on the Chaos forums........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 We have, however, had 10000 years to perfect bitter infighting, so I call this an RPG forum ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 As far as the negativity level, much of it stems from being stuck with a less than optimal codex for a long time. When word hit that ours would be redone, people assumed that it would be of a similar power level to the other main armies at the time (IG, Necron, Wolves, Knights) and so when it didn't reach that level, there was and is a great deal of disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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