AfroCampbell Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Firstly, does anybody have any links of well painted heresy Night Lords? How do people envision them? what armour marks? bolter patterns? How about STRATEGY? and how would you build Sevetar based on Betrayal? just curious what the wider community thinks .... :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275109-hh-night-lords/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
AekoldHelbrass Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 According to quite old Index Astartes entry, HH hadn't changed them a lot, only addition of Chaos symbolic to their standard death imaging. I'd stick with MK2 and MK4, it's hard to imagine them in heavy armour for full frontal assault. As for strategy, Legion is A LOT of marines, so you can do whatever you want. If you want to build around Sevatar - probably you should stick with Pride of the Legion? I know that I would create full assault army. Betrayal doesn't give you a lot of possibilities for characters, so simple praetor + TDA + Paragon blade, I cannot remember if Praetor can take a teleport homer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275109-hh-night-lords/#findComment-3366075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Personally, I think giving the enemy shell shock before charging in with bolter and blade with plenty of armor to hide behind while you blast the enemy into the ground with the music of coming apocalypse. Sometimes the death you know is coming can create more fear than the death that just shows up in your face with no time to react. But that's just me. For marks, personally a mixture of MK III and MK IV. The right combinations look brutal, with the promise of a messy death. Now, if you want an idea of Forgeworld to be some sort of influence, well the Destroyer Marines and the Recons Marines are painted up as Night Lords. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275109-hh-night-lords/#findComment-3366087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfroCampbell Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 Hmmm yes, I was thinking Mk 5 assault marines..... going with the traitors repairing on the fly with little resupply often in the Thramas Crusade, and apparently Night Lords are at the battle of Terra, so maybe based around their assault on the Palace... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275109-hh-night-lords/#findComment-3366427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 A D-B's NL series provide a wealth of detail for HH-era player. Whilst set in the lead up to the 13th Dark Crusade, for the characters it is but a couple of centuries since the siege of Terra - recommended. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275109-hh-night-lords/#findComment-3366669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AekoldHelbrass Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 A D-B's NL series provide a wealth of detail for HH-era player. Whilst set in the lead up to the 13th Dark Crusade, for the characters it is but a couple of centuries since the siege of Terra - recommended.Yes, but original question was about heresy-era if I understand correctly, which will allow them to use anything from MKII to MKV, and it tell the story of tiny warband of 30 to 50 marines, not at all depicting how NL Legion would fight. Prince of Crows would be better suggestion I guess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275109-hh-night-lords/#findComment-3366765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfroCampbell Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 A D-B's NL series provide a wealth of detail for HH-era player. Whilst set in the lead up to the 13th Dark Crusade, for the characters it is but a couple of centuries since the siege of Terra - recommended. Yea I am working my way through it atm, on the last book. I agree, great info on the NL during the Heresy. BTW does anyone know why the sworn brothers with Death Guard? JW .... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275109-hh-night-lords/#findComment-3366778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 The sworn brothers with the Death Guard? Could you elaborate perhaps? And I do agree with Aekold Helbrass. The NL series is a good series but it only represents a small, underpowered, undersupplied warband fighting to survive in the Grimdark future. And while "Prince of Crows" doesn't show too much on Legion activity, it and "Savage Weapons" both gives an idea or basis to work on for the moment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275109-hh-night-lords/#findComment-3366800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 He's referring to the Legions ally chart in the HH Betrayal. ya, I can explain that for you. While its somewhat brittle in terms of foundation, the idea roots from old Mortarion fluff. It basically describes him of being almost utterly devoid of kinship with his brother Primarch, all save Horus as we all know, and Curze, whom the two seemed to have an appreciation for each other's methods. I'm going to assume they used this to translate into their legions as well, given that they need at least some sworn brothers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275109-hh-night-lords/#findComment-3366805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 So it's possible that the Legions that are "sworn brothers" might be made to compliment each other. Interesting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275109-hh-night-lords/#findComment-3366881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Prince of Crows is pretty much essential reading, as is Savage Weapons. The only thing I'd point out is that PoC especially is coloured by Sevatar's perceptions which at times can contradict the general consensus by thats my own opinion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275109-hh-night-lords/#findComment-3366915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Once upon a time so did Talos' POV by contradicting the "Puritan/Radical" view introduced in Lord of Night by introducing a "grey" view between the two. If anything, PoC proved that multiple views of the VIII is only natural and that one thing can be interpreted many ways and none of them be "wrong". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275109-hh-night-lords/#findComment-3366932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Yes, but original question was about heresy-era if I understand correctly, which will allow them to use anything from MKII to MKV, and it tell the story of tiny warband of 30 to 50 marines, not at all depicting how NL Legion would fight. Prince of Crows would be better suggestion I guess. Getting beat up by the while trying to run away? :) Also, given your signature I'm surprised no one mentioned trying to extract some strategies from Sahaal's reminiscences in "Lord of the Night": To kill an enemy, strike in three places. Strike you at his hands, and he shall not cut you. Strike you at his heart, and his life shall wane. Strike you at his mind, and his courage shall fail, his faith shall leave him, and his defeat is assured. Now how that translates to the tabletop I have no idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275109-hh-night-lords/#findComment-3366943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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