Prot Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Just to spark conversation, and inevitable comparisons, I'm just curious if anyone is considering leaving Dark Angels to see if the grass is indeed greener on the Space Marine's side of the fence? Personally, I love the DA background. It really grew on me in this edition. And the special rules really make them unique to field. The funny thing is I never played vanilla marine codex... ever. I was always Wolves, or Templars, and now Dark Angels. Kinda weird. Anyway, I have too much invested in D.A. to walk away from the now. I mentioned this in another thread but the only concern I have is the 'Greenwing' player might be tempted to leave because it does look like pure Greenwing might not be as 'cool' anymore once those new SM models are out. I'm secretly hoping the flyer (if they get one) isn't actually better than the Nephilim. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I'm really hoping all the new dexes flyer's get the Neph treatment, that would go a long way to help those on the cusp of loyally. Me? I'm good, I used green marines before and will do so again, still DA; different rules. As other have mentioned too, allies are a great way to get new 'green' toys, then use C:DA for DW/RW coolness. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/#findComment-3417826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 If I were a Dark Angels player, I'd be tempted to make an allied force that counts-as Dark Angels. A cheap Scout unit, a Librarian with a lore the Dark Angels don't have, and some of the non-DA units. Edit: Plus, exchanging Combat Tactics for Grim Resolve is a very easy houserule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/#findComment-3417828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbenner Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Never leaving. Too much in my Deathwing Army, and too much in the collection of metal characters. Paul Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/#findComment-3417834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I might play Codex marines as another company, seeing as they may be basically the same as greenwing, but who knows, really. Maybe white scars if i want to make the GoTC bikers different from the ravenwing for fun. More than likely allies, as i've been oggleing the Centurions for very heavy supporting fire. Maybe a stormtalon too (already got one) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/#findComment-3417850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypherthefallenangel Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Well I started playing DA in the RT era ('89) and I still play them today so im not going anywhere. With that said.. I am guilty of playing my mechanized Greenwing army with the BA dex. Fast tanks and foot assault marines have a very pre-heresy feel to it. Yup, chamber 42 here I come. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/#findComment-3417872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I'm probably going to ally some space marine units. Deathwing Knights have done to much to capture my imagination to abandon them. Really all I want is the autocannon AA tank. With my mortis dread, it should do well enough alone. Even if it doesn't have interceptor like Hydras, I can still use it to kill wave serpents! I'm not adverse to taking some vanguard vets if they end up good either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/#findComment-3417955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemid Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I suspect I'm going to run my Successors as some variety of Codex when it drops, but we shall see. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/#findComment-3418000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 As other have mentioned too, allies are a great way to get new 'green' toys, then use C:DA for DW/RW coolness. Cannot agree more. Seriously, this is how lots of people play! Using Allies as counts-as is a great way of adding more toys or more flavour to your interpretation of something. And at the end of the day, isn't that what we're all doing? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/#findComment-3418032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Avoghai Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I've never ever tried a single game using codex SM when our codex was the crappy thing Jervis created in v4... I see no reason to do so with the current DA codex. Allies is another matter. Like I've explained several times I plan to create a small force representing the forges of the Rock and including some particular units. Since the choices will be vehicles, scouts (who have the same rules in both codex) and techmarines (who are not totally DA), the lack of grim resolve isn't annoying. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/#findComment-3418047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aradiel Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 being playing DA for over 15 years now, never used codex: marines. that is not going to change now. i utterly refuse to use allies as well, and care litte for the new toys, so i will not even buy the codex. used to buy them all but now they are a overpriced luxury that i will not indulge. hell, i did not even buy codex chaos and i have a iron warriors army Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/#findComment-3418052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Same here regarding the books, own every dex since 2nd Ed, not paying for these ones. Too dear by far. Same about C:CSM too; 4500pts of WE getting used by my 5 and 7 year olds for painting practice,gotta start somewhere ;) I did get C:D in the hope it would be ok...nah. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/#findComment-3418057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortysl Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Short answer: no. I'm a Dark Angel. End of. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/#findComment-3418061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberame Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I have been a black templar player since the release of third edition and I saw the cover art for the gamebox/rulebook. Still got the limited edition captain to boot. So alas I will be playing the regular codex marines when they come out, but will still have my ravenwing and deathwing for support. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/#findComment-3418075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRSFACE Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Unfortunately for me, everyone in my neck of the woods is Powergamer McGee, so if there's a legitimate strategic cheese reason to run a Battle Brothers force org, I'll most likely be forced into it. I just got into the hobby in total in November and have really, really, really enjoyed modeling and painting, but good lord the tabletop game is simply unfun as far as I know. All the long time players keep telling me "it gets better as your forces expand" but I'm 4000ish points into Dark Angels and I still get tabled every single game, running strategies based on advice I've gotten to boot. Then again the jerkwads around here have likely been giving me poor advice on purpose so they can win more. Luckily for me I just like the universe, so if I have a reason to field some other army I also think is cool, then, whee. I'm already starting an Ulthwé eldar list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/#findComment-3418095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 No plans on ditching the DA Codex anytime soon - allies though are a totally different kettle of fish so yes a purchase of the new C:SM seems on the cards, despite its likely £30 price tag :(. Must admit to have kept well clear of the usual rumour sites so I have no great expectations of it either way. Looking forwards to seeing how the two forces might synergise. Cheers I Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/#findComment-3418105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magos Valkamar Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I'm not going anywhere. I'll admit to using the 5th edition SM codex before the release of the our latest, considering that our previous one was awful, I don't think that's particularly unreasonable. Allies, as others have said, are a totally different matter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/#findComment-3418112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elphilo Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I love my DA, so will I ever stop playing DA completely? No. Not at all. I'll always have the urge to play a DA army at some point. But I will admit that I do love the knightly theme and have really liked the Black Templars. Heresy I know But with the possible release of them in the new SM codex, I'll probably create a small army of them. Though thats after my penitent crusade for delving into foul xenos As to their flyers, this will be the first time a 5th edition flyer gets converted into 6th edition. I hope they don't screw it up and keep them cheap as hell (though I'm okay with the Stormraven's price point atm) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/#findComment-3418204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmo Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Am I planning on switching loyalty? - Nope! I have been a dress wearing monk for quite some time and will be for a long time to come codex creep or no. Now Xenos are a different question ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/#findComment-3418214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkangeldentist Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 No, I will not switch to Space marines when the new codex lands. I like my book and with only a couple of minor gripes am very happy with it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/#findComment-3418238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper76 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I would never switch my DA codex for vanilla Space Marines, your codex is awesome. I might pick up the new SM codex to use the my brothers ultras for allies though. It will be interesting to see if any of the new units get FAQ'ed into your codex. I mean our codex as oppose to "your" codex Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/#findComment-3418295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Raziel Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I kind of doubt I'll be switching from our current dex to the vanilla one. I, for one, am not all that excited about the new Space Marine Broadsides (the Centurions), and I'm imagining the SM flyer is going to be the Storm Talon, which is silly looking. I might think the Nephilim is overpriced, but it's the best looking SM flyer GW has done to date. There's enough stuff in Codex: Dark Angels to keep me happy with a multitude of different builds to try. From what I've heard about the upcoming release, about the only thing in the vanilla dex I might want to have is the AA tank, and for friendly games at least I might just informally add it to our arsenal. Then again, might just use a Mortis Dreadnought instead. Regarding the Mortis, is the pricing in IA2 still official, or is there an update somewhere I haven't been able to find? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/#findComment-3418306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aradiel Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Regarding the Mortis, is the pricing in IA2 still official, or is there an update somewhere I haven't been able to find? there has been a update, not sure if the books themselves have been updated by this update a mortis with 2 twin lascannons costs 155 points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/#findComment-3418498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 won't be playing them with my Green Marines... but I happen to have a C: SM army as well ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/#findComment-3418506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemid Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I mean, I'm totally going to keep my Terminators around, but that's mostly what I'm here for. I love the robes, too, but don't actually like running Green that much. It's entirely likely I'll be doing self-ally stuff between DA and my Successor :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278284-anyone-leaving-for-the-new-sm-codex/#findComment-3418542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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