Emperor's Furor Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 As Valdor says, the Thousand Sons had to be dealt with the way they eventually were anyway, he was very cold about it but I think he was correct. I think the Khan who was a big supporter of Magnus ill come to the same conclusion to, to him magus will of strayed to far down the path of heavens. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3476318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozeryk_Sleipnijr Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 From the second Magnus made a deal to keep his sons from mutating he was lost. Thousand Sons and Prospero Burns are true tragedies in the HH. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3477205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 As Valdor says, the Thousand Sons had to be dealt with the way they eventually were anyway, he was very cold about it but I think he was correct. I think the Khan who was a big supporter of Magnus ill come to the same conclusion to, to him magus will of strayed to far down the path of heavens. The problem is, Magnus did it without telling his sons. Even though Magnus damned them by saving them, the Thousand Sons themselves are innocents... If he would have been more truthful to his sons, and to the big E, the tragedy might have been avoided... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3477326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 Just thought I'd raise two points. In an audio drama with Garro, there's some white scars in that who turn out to be traitors, apparently the ship got out of shape in the warp storm, it's possible that the one of the two ships I mentioned previously about not arriving at the rendezvous point could be one of these ships. Equally it's possible the other one might turn up at Macragge in Unremembered Empire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3478509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Vaddon Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 As Valdor says, the Thousand Sons had to be dealt with the way they eventually were anyway, he was very cold about it but I think he was correct. I think the Khan who was a big supporter of Magnus ill come to the same conclusion to, to him magus will of strayed to far down the path of heavens. The problem is, Magnus did it without telling his sons. Even though Magnus damned them by saving them, the Thousand Sons themselves are innocents... If he would have been more truthful to his sons, and to the big E, the tragedy might have been avoided... And Ahriman hates his Father for it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3478754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Probably posted elsewhere but Chris Wraight revealed the following today at Games Day he's only just finished the last episode and it needs editingkhan will fight a primarch, i think we can guess who but then later on when discussing the khan fighting primarchs, the plural was emphasised, not A primarch Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3479691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 Yeah it was me who asked the question :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3479693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Probably posted elsewhere but Chris Wraight revealed the following today at Games Day he's only just finished the last episode and it needs editing khan will fight a primarch, i think we can guess who but then later on when discussing the khan fighting primarchs, the plural was emphasised, not A primarch I'm guessing 2 of these follwing three: Mortarion, Fulgrim, Magnus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3481541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
no I'm alpharius Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 It was set up in the flashback, wasn't it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3482029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnostiko Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Guys, just a reminder. The Razing of Prospero happened just after Davin in the timeline. So there is time between the Razing an Betrayer. The problem is, Rebirth was before or after Betrayer? Because Arvida turned Khârn totally insane, he looked traumatize at the beginning, almost totally taken by the nails, and then Arvida destroyed the last honourable and sane part of Khârn. Maybe it was after Nuceria? No, Arvida planted the seed of doubt and knowledge on Khârn. Meaning rather than Khârn simply falling under Khorne's influence, he - from that point onwards - would do so willingly and knowing full well what that choice brought with it. That's why Rebirth may tie with Khârn's behaviour at Skallathrax, he may have betrayed his fellows out of regret and rage that they, too, have fallen to Khorne. That's just a theory, though. Ninja'd x2 - it's Captain Kalliston, and not Arvida being tortured by Khârn, and Rebirth is 6 months after A Thousand Sons, while Betrayer is ostensibly a year after Istvaan, which is itself after Davin. I tend to think of it as a minor oversight in timeline continuity. How could anyone read Rebirth and think Kalliston "influenced" Khârn into becoming the psycho we know and love? The only influencing Kalliston does is to verbally taunt him; and this while he still believes Khârn is a Space Wolf. Most of Kalliston's psychic abilities are employed in skimming the surface thoughts and emotions of Khârn. By the time he uses his powers offensively, Khârn has already made the decision to kill him after Kalliston offers to use his powers to nullify the effects of the Nails. Magnus vs Khan fight? I say this because Magnus has supposedly become a faceless energy being, if memory serves. Could very well be, I hope not, but have a feeling that's where we're going. Curiously I was reminded of a comment Lorgar made in Betrayer to Magnus; commenting on the shifting features of Magnus he asks 'have any of us ever seen your true face?'[sic] Spoilers: thank you so much! I've not been bothered either way about the various formats and limited editions BL have introduced into the series but I felt Scars was too good to ignore until it came out on paperback. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3482441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 it's Captain Kalliston, and not Arvida being tortured by Khârn, and Rebirth is 6 months after A Thousand Sons, while Betrayer is ostensibly a year after Istvaan, which is itself after Davin. I tend to think of it as a minor oversight in timeline continuity.Actually, that wouldn't even be much of timeline oversight since the Razing was two months after Davin with Davin being a year before Istvaan III, which was a few months before Istvaan V. It actually leaves room for a big giant hole. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3482448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Just finished ep 9 :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3482452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Well then, you know what must be done... :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3482468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Ill get on it ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3482473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnostiko Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 it's Captain Kalliston, and not Arvida being tortured by Khârn, and Rebirth is 6 months after A Thousand Sons, while Betrayer is ostensibly a year after Istvaan, which is itself after Davin. I tend to think of it as a minor oversight in timeline continuity.Actually, that wouldn't even be much of timeline oversight since the Razing was two months after Davin with Davin being a year before Istvaan III, which was a few months before Istvaan V. It actually leaves room for a big giant hole. Meh; it's not particularly something that bothers me - it more seems to irk those who try to establish linear figures for travel times across the galaxy, which I feel is pretty pointless since 'warp time' pretty much throws all that out of the window. Where did you get the two months after Davin from? Just finished ep 9 Spill!!!!!!!!!!!! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3482475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 A Thousand Sons. We know that Magnus' intervention was concurrent. Then it says that it took like six weeks to prepare the ritual that allowed him to destroy the Gate on Terra while trying to warn the Emperor of the coming Heresy. After that, the Razing happens. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3482486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnostiko Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 A Thousand Sons. We know that Magnus' intervention was concurrent. Then it says that it took like six weeks to prepare the ritual that allowed him to destroy the Gate on Terra while trying to warn the Emperor of the coming Heresy. After that, the Razing happens. Dooooh, good one. I only tend to pick up details like that after a few readthroughs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3482490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Here's a run through Okay run through shiban went to the first lodge meeting was angry at their outright siding with Horus The stormcaller found a holo map on the WB ship that shows all the legions positions warp currents and heaps of detail. Deamon machine spits out a blood letter that kills the sallie The khan encounters aspirations of the psykernuin evil psyker predator fish of prospero falls down into the catacombs the white scars meet everyone's favourite thousand son soon to be blood raven and the khan encounters what I'm assuming is a shadow of Magnus in the bowels Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3482500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddywarcrimes Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Curse those vile time zones keeping me from getting Scars IX for 7.25 more hours. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3482504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 ;) later ill do my usual upload all the good parts so keep calm kiddies Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3482510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Hmm anything solid between Khan/Magnus? I hope the Blood Raven stuff is...not reinforced much... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3482511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Well Magnus appeared in literally the last line of the last paragraph. And as for our TS he had one good line “We came to find the truth,’ he said. Arvida laughed then, a sour, grating rattle. ‘Ah, the truth.” Excerpt From: Wraight, Chris. “Scars: Episode IX.” Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3482518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnostiko Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Arvida found! Yes! I was worried after ADB's kaiboshing that train of thought at the HH meetings that one would remain unresolved. Happy! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3482519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Ah I was fearful Magnus would be the cliff hanger, oh well, to next week then! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3482584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 2, 2013 Author Share Posted October 2, 2013 Found a way to access internet by hi-jacking someone elses room lol I'll get my copy later "today" and give my normal review, or has Jaspcat usurped me? :P Think going to games day gave me Bronchitis! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/23/#findComment-3482587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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