Scars Episode XI Updated 16/10 (Spoilers)

[GhostMalone]

Well WoT you can have all the glory :P

 

Ill just not inform people of developments from now on ;)

[Lord Lorne Walkier]

Arvida found! Yes! I was worried after ADB's kaiboshing that train of thought at the HH meetings that one would remain unresolved. Happy!

Arvida alive, now all I need is for one of the Sigillites operatives to show up. In the end I don't think you will remain happy... Arvida is heading for the Grey Knights not the Blood Ravens. And I do think these two are mutually exclusive.

[Emperor's Furor]

Well WoT you can have all the glory

Ill just not inform people of developments from now on

:P Was only kidding, as I said earlier in the thread it's better to have more than one person contributing so nothing is missed :)

[b1soul]

Seems like we're not going to see the WS or Jaghatai in combat until the finale

[Gnostiko]

Arvida found! Yes! I was worried after ADB's kaiboshing that train of thought at the HH meetings that one would remain unresolved. Happy!

Arvida alive, now all I need is for one of the Sigillites operatives to show up. In the end I don't think you will remain happy... Arvida is heading for the Grey Knights not the Blood Ravens. And I do think these two are mutually exclusive.

That's a wild assumption to make.

Whilst I wouldn't be surprised if this did actually happen, as a rather barbed bait-and-switch, they should just seal the deal with Arvida and the Blood Ravens.

[b1soul]

Let me get this straight here...so Arvida is one of Captain Kalliston's sergeants and Captain Kaliiston is the one Khârn interrogates in Rebirth?

[Greyall]

What is this shadow of Magnus? A footprint, sort of an energy leftover from his presence there or a full-on mini-avatar of him?

@WoT: Get well soon, mate. Although we need only your eyes and fingers

[GhostMalone]

 

it appears to me that its sort of like his psychic imprint/shadow or a projection from the planet of sorcerers maybe? sort of like lorgar appearing to  magnus in Aurelian.

 

 

other then that im not exactly sure if its him or not

[Greyall]

Thanks, Jasp. And is Shiban on a black list or do the others at the Lodge take his divergence well?

[GhostMalone]

he's torn between loyalty to the khan and his friendship and belief held by the Terran scar, he's watching but hasn't yet decided his stance he's disgusted but understanding next episode will probably give the answer on his stance

[Gnostiko]

Let me get this straight here...so Arvida is one of Captain Kalliston's sergeants and Captain Kaliiston is the one Khârn interrogates in Rebirth?

That's right

[Emperor's Furor]

Ok I read it, adding to what Jaspcat stated, it appears something is coming to prospero. During the lodge meeting, the leader states their window for action shrinks and the most important part in my mind is he then says with a benign smile "They are coming, brothers. They are coming here, to Prospero." Someone is coming, I don't know who but personally after reading the short story from Imperial Truth last night, I think it could be Mortarion.

 

Another point is the time line, when the Yesugei, Bion and the Salamander look at the star map, it indicates the Word Bearers and World Eaters are on their way to Ultramar and that the White Scars are on their way to Prospero, so it kind of puts in perspective when everything is happening. It appears Rebirth occurred prior to Betrayer.

[GhostMalone]

That's the feeling I got maybe the corruption kicked in and the first proto nurgle marines are here

[Cerbero666]

Ok I read it, adding to what Jaspcat stated, it appears something is coming to prospero. During the lodge meeting, the leader states their window for action shrinks and the most important part in my mind is he then says with a benign smile "They are coming, brothers. They are coming here, to Prospero." Someone is coming, I don't know who but personally after reading the short story from Imperial Truth last night, I think it could be Mortarion.

 

Another point is the time line, when the Yesugei, Bion and the Salamander look at the star map, it indicates the Word Bearers and World Eaters are on their way to Ultramar and that the White Scars are on their way to Prospero, so it kind of puts in perspective when everything is happening. It appears Rebirth occurred prior to Betrayer.

 

Hell, that doesn't makes sense, Khârn looked very calm in Betrayer, and he looked completly out of his mind in Rebirth. Damn Heresy coherence, I'm more confuse now. 

[Emperor's Furor]

Well in the short story, Typhon is by himself confront Corswain, no one knows where Mortarion is, he's the only traitor Primarch I can't put my finger on anything that indicates where he may be, and with his brief dialogue in the flash back with Khan I'm inclined to think it's him whose coming.

 

Ok I read it, adding to what Jaspcat stated, it appears something is coming to prospero. During the lodge meeting, the leader states their window for action shrinks and the most important part in my mind is he then says with a benign smile "They are coming, brothers. They are coming here, to Prospero." Someone is coming, I don't know who but personally after reading the short story from Imperial Truth last night, I think it could be Mortarion.

 

Another point is the time line, when the Yesugei, Bion and the Salamander look at the star map, it indicates the Word Bearers and World Eaters are on their way to Ultramar and that the White Scars are on their way to Prospero, so it kind of puts in perspective when everything is happening. It appears Rebirth occurred prior to Betrayer.

 

Hell, that doesn't makes sense, Khârn looked very calm in Betrayer, and he looked completly out of his mind in Rebirth. Damn Heresy coherence, I'm more confuse now. 

It may be because Prospero is a psychic rich planet and it was aggravating his butchers nail.

[Greyall]

Don't try to insert Rebirth into the continuity with such detail, it follows Galaxy in Flames, in which Khârn appeared as a chaotic berserker for no reason, since corruption hadn't kicked in yet. So the 8th Captain's behaviour is not very well thought.

 

Why would the Death Guard come to Prospero...? Not saying it won't be them, the conversation between the Primarchs suggests the Khan and Mortarion will meet, it's just strange. Perhaps they come to help the Lodge Scars turn and dominate the rest of the Legion while also trying to convince the Khan.

 

The Scars are still walking a very fine line...If the Lodge brothers don't rethink their stance, the Scars should start asking the Dark Angels for tips on how to silence pesky Inquisitors.

 

Also, WoT: do shed some light on that Corswain vs Typhon encounter.

[Emperor's Furor]

Don't try to insert Rebirth into the continuity with such detail, it follows Galaxy in Flames, in which Khârn appeared as a chaotic berserker for no reason, since corruption hadn't kicked in yet. So the 8th Captain's behaviour is not very well thought.

 

Why would the Death Guard come to Prospero...? Not saying it won't be them, the conversation between the Primarchs suggests the Khan and Mortarion will meet, it's just strange. Perhaps they come to help the Lodge Scars turn and dominate the rest of the Legion while also trying to convince the Khan.

 

The Scars are still walking a very fine line...If the Lodge brothers don't rethink their stance, the Scars should start asking the Dark Angels for tips on how to silence pesky Inquisitors.

 

Also, WoT: do shed some light on that Corswain vs Typhon encounter.

The Lion leaves Corswain in charge of a large part of the legion to try and find Leman Russ, however Typhon is rampaging through systems destroying worlds and Corswains makes the decision to tackle him by using Librarians to scry for where he is, they find him at a world that has seceded from the Imperium because it wants no part, Typhons forces out number Corswains and they begin to attack, Corswain is trying to coax the seceded world's president into helping them and choosing their side, it's not until Corswains comes out and states the honest brutal fatalistic truth a long with him planning on counter boarding the Terminus Est that the president decides to side with them and finally turns the guns on the Death Guard fleet forcing them to withdraw, Corswains then plans to take the troop ships from the world and head to Caliban to get reinforcements. He states among the story they have no idea where Mortarion is.

[b1soul]

In which book do Corwain and Typhon encounter each other?

 

 So the 8th Captain's behaviour is not very well thought.

 

I think this is the correct answer

[Greyall]

Mortarion being 'alone' gives even more credence to him going to Prospero and attempting to sway the Khan.

 

@b1soul: Imperial Truth. Though it seems they don't get to fight.

[Emperor's Furor]

In which book do Corwain and Typhon encounter each other?

 

 So the 8th Captain's behaviour is not very well thought.

 

 

I think this is the correct answer

Short story in Imperial Truth that was available at Games Day, only the fleets really encounter each other, Corswain is almost about to deliver a boarding action to the Terminus Est when the Terminus Est closes to do the same, but the president below finally decides to side with Corswain and forces the Death Guard to withdraw.

[Greyall]

I've seen little about Typhon until now, but he strikes me as seriously evil. Like, Erebus-evil, and eager to be as corrupt as the Word Bearer.

[Emperor's Furor]

He was already corrupted during that story when he was fighting Iron Hands and the Dark Angels turned up, he was almost fused to his armour and had flies inside it or something. He's the example of a psyker giving in to the whispers of chaos as opposed to being bargained with like Erebus etc.

[Greyall]

Oooh, I didn't know he was already so far down the line.

 

There's a reason he handles the pain better than his Primarch when all turns to hell on the Death Guard, then.

[Emperor's Furor]

Well it's suggested Mortarion deliberately did it upon Nurgles request. He took over the navigation of the fleet I think and then becalmed them and allowed Nurgle to get his slimy paws on them.

[Cerbero666]

IIRC Typhon was one of the first traitors and architects of the Horus Heresy with Erebus and Kor Phaeron, but I don't remember where I read that or If I read it at all. In that case is normal that he is so corrupted to that point of the story.