Jolemai Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 First, a bit of background. Terrify - BRB, p423 Terrify is a malediction that targets a single enemy unit within 24". The target receives no benefit from the Fearless special rule and treats all enemy units as having the Fear special rule for the power's duration. Furthermore, it must immediately take a moral check. Red Thirst - C:BA, p23 ... On a score of 1, one or more members have succumbed to the red thirst and the entire squad is treated as having Furious Charge and Fearless special rules instead of the And They Shall Know No Fear for the remainder of the game. Death Company which are Fearless and any unit that has Red Thirst no longer has ATSKNF for that game. Therefore if Terrify is cast on them they are subject to fear, can be destroyed in sweeping advances and will not automatically regroup. Is this correct? If it is and the unit is broken, what happens when Terrify is no longer active (assuming it only lasts one game turn)? Do they have to test to regroup using the normal regroup rules? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279175-the-death-company-fearless-and-terrify/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam13n Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 RAW is clear. They no longer have ATSKNF Terrify removes fearless (which replaced ATSKNF) If the unit then has to take a morale check for any reason, they are treated as any other unit (that doesn't have ATSKNF or Fearless) Therefore, they could in theory, be run down by a sweeping advance etc. However, as soon as Terrify ends, the unit will regain fearless and auto-rally at the start of their next turn. However, unlike a unit with ATSKNF, they won't get the "may act normally" bonus that is included in that special rule - they'll consolidate then act like any normal (non-ATSKNF) unit that has rallied at the start of the turn. A unit with fearless is considered to pass any pinning, fear and regroup tests and Morale checks they are required to make. (BRB page 35 - fearless) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279175-the-death-company-fearless-and-terrify/#findComment-3440411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 That's an awesome find! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279175-the-death-company-fearless-and-terrify/#findComment-3440451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 And sadly there remains a case where ATSKNF > Fearless. It was one of the things GW had tried to get right with 6th. :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279175-the-death-company-fearless-and-terrify/#findComment-3440460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 Thanks for the replies. I am now a little bit more wary of the Hemlock Wraithfighter... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279175-the-death-company-fearless-and-terrify/#findComment-3440519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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