KnightOfBAAL Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I need a cc ally for my only shooty ultra marines I was thinking thunder wolf cavalry or allied ravenguard and possibly even allied imperial fists to get Lysander and terminators in a stormraven Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorenus Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Have you thought about just taking Ultramarine Assault Centurions? Possibly in either a Land Raider or a Storm Raven for rapid delivery, or a Drop Pod if either of those options is too pricy for your list. I think that you will find that adding a unit of Assault Centurions plus a LR or SR will run you about as many points as whatever you would end up taking in an allied detachment. (Also: If you take a Storm Raven, you can transport an Ironclad Dreadnought to back up your Assault Centurions). For that matter, Assault Terminators + Storm Raven + Ironclad Dreadnought would also be a solid choice, especially if you throw in a Chaplain or Librarian in TDA to buff the Assault Terminators. Quick point breakdown for you: 4 Assault Centurions (maximum size that can fit in a Storm Raven) = 250 points, + 200ish for the SR (depending on upgrades), +135ish for Ironclad Dreadnought = 585 points or thereabouts (again, depending on possible upgrades). For Assault Terminators, 5 Assault Terminators = 200ish points (depends how many are armed with TH/SSs vs. LCs), so without adding any special/independent characters (Librarian or Chaplain) you'd be at about 535 with Ironclad Dreadnought and Storm Raven. If you're not going to add an Independent Character, then you might as well add a 6th Assault Terminator. Anyway, food for thought, I hope. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/#findComment-3455447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightOfBAAL Posted September 10, 2013 Author Share Posted September 10, 2013 well I thought about doing that but I like collecting a lot of stuff and would like more troops than that option gives me to use Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/#findComment-3455480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgabe Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 How about Black Templar- Crusader Squad with Neophytes will add a lot of 3+/4+ armor saves to your army. Place them in a Land Raider Crusader and you have a solid unit that won't be that easy to get rid of. LR Crusader w/ melta 260 points Crusader squad w 10 Initiates and 6 Neophytes is 200 points plus any extras to add on. Emperors Chamption is 140 points. Sure, its 600 points but with your UM shooting that should give you a beefy CC element. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/#findComment-3455697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Take Ultramarines assault units. Honour Guard and Vanguard smash faces pretty easily. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/#findComment-3455997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkGuard Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 All you really need are Hammernators in a Land Raider if you want something really hitty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/#findComment-3456003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Expensive but they get the job done! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/#findComment-3456063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somar Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Blood Angels libby for divination, Death Company to smash face. nuff said... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/#findComment-3456234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkGuard Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Or just take Tigurius and normal stuff from current Codex. Saves points as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/#findComment-3456260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightOfBAAL Posted September 11, 2013 Author Share Posted September 11, 2013 mmmm ok so how about the terminator plan in a stormraven or land raider with all TH and a CC dread for support Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/#findComment-3456427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 People are wise to the old Termies in a landraider tactic. Best putting them in a storm raven... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/#findComment-3456436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 The great part of this new codex is, as many pointed out, that we now have a variety of assault oriented units that are now viable. However, if you still want to ally another codex, i'd suggest BA death company with a divination librarian. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/#findComment-3456460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightOfBAAL Posted September 11, 2013 Author Share Posted September 11, 2013 what about CC crusader squads with a emperors champion or a really big vanguard vet squad and the termie stuff do lightning claws cost 15 for 2 on one model or 30 for 2?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/#findComment-3456489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkGuard Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Go with what you like, points reductions have made most units viable in that role. And 30pts for 2 pairs, you need to buy a lightning claw twice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/#findComment-3456890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsev Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 im gonna ally some ravenwing black knights into my list... i just love these guys... with a divination libby, and a sniper squad for the cheap troop choice... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/#findComment-3458693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightOfBAAL Posted September 12, 2013 Author Share Posted September 12, 2013 just letting you know ive used them they are fragile and get shot up easily even in max numbers they just gwt everything shot at them first turn and are to many points for what they don't do S 6 whoo hoo....... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/#findComment-3458732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thevoodooman Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 SPACE SHARKS! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/#findComment-3513193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Ally some Dark Eldar allies as Mercenaries. A squad of 4 Incubi and Drazhar in a Venom will kill anything! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/#findComment-3513217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Grey Knight Deathcult Assassins. One of the best CC units in the game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/#findComment-3513236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysere Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 SPACE SHARKS! Not even their allies are happy fighting along side them. Still Tyberos, Tacsquad armed for CC, storm raven. Hit hard, shred anything outside of 2+ armor. After the first enemy slain they just get better. I did Tyberos with Honorguard the other day, but that is a little expensive to be running for allies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/#findComment-3513242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayorDaley Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Grey Knight Deathcult Assassins. One of the best CC units in the game. Just to push this idea a bit more: Coteaz can make them Troops, hands out Hammerhand, and helps get 1st turn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/#findComment-3513253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysere Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Grey Knight Deathcult Assassins. One of the best CC units in the game. Just to push this idea a bit more: Coteaz can make them Troops, hands out Hammerhand, and helps get 1st turn. Just make sure he doesn't end up face to face with a thunder hammer, power fist, or any other instant death armor ignoring weapon. He doesn't usually survive such encounters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/#findComment-3513266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayorDaley Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Grey Knight Deathcult Assassins. One of the best CC units in the game. Just to push this idea a bit more: Coteaz can make them Troops, hands out Hammerhand, and helps get 1st turn. Just make sure he doesn't end up face to face with a thunder hammer, power fist, or any other instant death armor ignoring weapon. He doesn't usually survive such encounters. LOL a Relic Blade is ID fer ole Coteaz Edit: Str 6 specificly Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/#findComment-3513269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysere Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Grey Knight Deathcult Assassins. One of the best CC units in the game. Just to push this idea a bit more: Coteaz can make them Troops, hands out Hammerhand, and helps get 1st turn. Just make sure he doesn't end up face to face with a thunder hammer, power fist, or any other instant death armor ignoring weapon. He doesn't usually survive such encounters. LOL a Relic Blade is ID fer ole Coteaz Edit: Str 6 specificly True enough, that man just does not like the 'Average' commander weapon options for marines, or most Tau shooting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/#findComment-3513278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roderikum Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 What about Dc + Reclusiarc + DC Dreadnought + SR + Libby Dread??? Maybe BA VV with jumpacks too??? Perhaps it's a little bit cost, but DC os still the best assault unit I' ve ever played with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279870-cc-allies-for-ultramarines/#findComment-3517093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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