Tonal Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 So, for a while now I've been mulling over the possibility of an army based of the amazing story The Iron Within. For those who haven't read it, the story is about a group of Iron Warrior loyalists holding out against the wrath of their legion a while before the Siege of Terra. The story added a while new spin to the, to me, very bland and cartoonish Iron Warriors and I've had a passion for them in their pre-Heresy and loyalist form. So, I thought it might be neat to build a chapter based on this band of loyalist Iron Warriors, as their Warsmith, Chaplain, and a few others survive the story. My first thought is to create a successor chapter under the pretense that after the Heresy the loyalist Warsmith, Barabas Dantioch, was rewarded with a small chapter due to his efforts in the Heresy. The Chapter would use the Ultramarine's Geneseed, but follow Olympian customs and the traditions of the old Iron Warriors. My other idea, and slightly more far-fetched, is that after the Heresy, Barabas and his remaining allies and loyalists worked to systematically cleanse the Imperium of the multitude of Iron Warrior Garrisons. Along the way, they'd gather up more loyalist hold outs until Barabas commanded about 50 - 100 total loyalists. With this force and a good deal of assistance from the Ad-Mech, Dantioch would act as a kind if "renegade". Loyal to the Imperium in all it's forms, but acting outside of the Codex or any other restrictions in their quest to hunt down their traitorous kin. So, any feedback? They're both rough concepts ATM, and touch upon some sore subjects, so I figured it'd be worth asking about for advice. I favor the second option myself, but it seems almost more impractical, and much harder to justify. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280469-the-iron-wardens-sons-of-dantioch/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviar Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I like the second alternative, and it isn't that far fetched. They can educate an apothecary and harvest the genseed of the slain traitorous Iron Warriors, and from those create new loyal ones. They may want to re-think their name and change it to something like The sons of Barabas or something if they want to Seattle down on a homeworld, so they don't get unwanted attention from the Inquisition. But still hold the tradition of the Iron Warriors alive. Here you have the option on creating a world and its pupulation in your own way, or maybe you favor a fleetbased Chapter. How many Vessels do they have and what class are they and what is their names, for example 1 Battleship named the Barabos might and 3 Strike cruisers named The Iron Will and so forth on. They would almost certain have mixed armour, some MK II to V from pre heresy era and Some MK VI- VIII and some Chaos armour scavenged from dead traitors. So your modeling will have a bigger range of possebilities. I could go on and on, but it is your project and the text above is just some ideas, if you found something you liked, keep it ,glad I could help. It shows that you put some thoughts behind it, like "cleanse the traitor IW garrisons", considering IW specialty being masters of seige warfare your loyal marines would have the advantage. Nothing is too far fetched, there are some rules to consider writting your own fluff, but apart from that I would say that the imagination is the limit. I haven't read the Iron Within, butit seems like a good story so I going to buy it, because I really liked Storm of Iron. It's going to be fun to see where your going with this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280469-the-iron-wardens-sons-of-dantioch/#findComment-3466466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoption Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Actually... I see a way of combining the two ideas. While the truth is what Sivar purposed, the official cover story is that they are Ultramarine successors. You could hint that they are actually Iron Warriors through a number of different bread crumbs. The Battlebarge named Barbars, their geneseed under strict scruitneny despite being Ultramarines stock, the chapters tendency towards Seige warfare (perhaps with a rivalry with the sons of dorn), some dorn chapters refuse to fight along side with them, ect. I think that the chapter would be more interesting if the truth were obsured officially (like the blood ravens) but their are enough details about them that people could deduce the truth. Just my two cents Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280469-the-iron-wardens-sons-of-dantioch/#findComment-3466716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon0321 Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Yea combine both ideas Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280469-the-iron-wardens-sons-of-dantioch/#findComment-3474714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonal Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 Hrm, I quite like the idea. I had considered doing something similar at first, but wasn't sure. If I do use such a format, I'd still like to present the B&C with the "real" picture though, even if it is concealed IG. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280469-the-iron-wardens-sons-of-dantioch/#findComment-3474789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Warden Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Hey All, I am new to B&C and checking out all and new information on the Storm Wardens, and came across this little gem. Tonal, I love the idea, and the good suggestions the other posters made. I'm intrigued by the Iron Within story. I've always like the idea of a traitor legion possessing a smattering of loyalist hold-outs, and even toyed with the idea of making my own chapter in that vein. I'll have read the story. In the meantime, Tonal, let me know what you decided, and what chapter tactics, history, etc, that you came up with. Regards, Storm Warden Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280469-the-iron-wardens-sons-of-dantioch/#findComment-3530045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dar'kir Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Its funny i should find this post as i had an similar idea when i read that story aswell. My thoughts were kind of in line with Sivar. With all of the misinformation on later foundings, they could simply have "slipped" through the cracks so to speak. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280469-the-iron-wardens-sons-of-dantioch/#findComment-3539992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitnam Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I know this is a bit old but I'd also like to add that I love the idea. The iron Within was my favorite story in that anthology and probably own of my top favorites ever. The idea of combining the too is the best imo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280469-the-iron-wardens-sons-of-dantioch/#findComment-3542279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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