Runefyre Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Unless you're playing against my Coils list and I get first turn (like 75%+ of the time), in which case it's getting smoked by grav first turn! Something tells me that isn't a Night Lord Tactic. Anyway my opinion is a dreadclaw is probably the best method of getting your seekers right on (their preferred) target. Does grav ignore cover? I can't remember off the top of me head. If it doesn't terror assault has that covered I love puns helterskelter 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Tbh with 24" threat range to scorpius bolts I'd keep them cheap and station them somewhere near my home objectives, they can capture like vets if I remember correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 ^Scorpius bolts are 18" are they not? 24" technically with movement, but then you're snap shotting, which makes them far less scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 ^Scorpius bolts are 18" are they not? 24" technically with movement, but then you're snap shotting, which makes them far less scary. No, Scorpius are 24" Heavy 1. Tempest Bolts are 18" Rapid Fire, Blast (3") Perry 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 OH! That's far more attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) I'm loving all these changes. My biggest grievance with the night lords before was how mono build the army felt due to how good terror assualt was. Terror assualt is still good but thinking outside of the box for a moment veterans seem like a really fun unit. So what would the best way to make use of veterans for us? I was thinking about grabbing some WS 5 vets and then throwing them in a dreadclaw with some sniper vets in rhinos maybe? What special weapons work best with us? Otherwise assualt marines are fun. A shame about breachers costing about the same for us when maxed out but an armored land raider company is still fun. Edited July 23, 2016 by ThatOneMarshal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 I think for me the real appeal of having some cheap assault marines bouncing around would be to guarantee Tallent for Murder outnumber rule Far too often I've lost that rule due to attrition before/ during combat, but having a unit of Assault guys able to join would really tip the odds in my favour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 I'm loving all these changes. My biggest grievance with the night lords before was how mono build the army felt due to how good terror assualt was. Terror assualt is still good but thinking outside of the box for a moment veterans seem like a really fun unit. So what would the best way to make use of veterans for us? I was thinking about grabbing some WS 5 vets and then throwing them in a dreadclaw with some sniper vets in rhinos maybe? What special weapons work best with us? Otherwise assualt marines are fun. A shame about breachers costing about the same for us when maxed out but an armored land raider company is still fun. Ws5 vet's work great with tfm thanks to that beautiful +1, so as long as they outnumber whoever they charge hitting and wounding on 2's with glaive and axes is a delight. Take a plasma something somewhere to kill the one guy you need to die to outnumber most things. Missile launchers with suspensor Web benefit from the tank killer rule, +1 to penetrate rolls means that str 8 goes that bit extra so hp stripping is easier in an army that suffers under our main rite, as well as being able to pad the rest of the squad with combi melta, 10 pseudo str 9 hits vs any vehicle especially Spartans is gonna hurt (you'll want to consider a 1-2 punch if spartan hunting with vets, maybe raptors right behind to onslaught the gooey centre) Assault marines are an awesome option now, and can bulk out horror cult nicely, gives the opponent the worry of dealing with the assault blob or the raptor onslaught instead of just gunning for the raptors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 I think for me the real appeal of having some cheap assault marines bouncing around would be to guarantee Tallent for Murder outnumber rule Far too often I've lost that rule due to attrition before/ during combat, but having a unit of Assault guys able to join would really tip the odds in my favour They are 25 more when maxed out. They should have just given them the same cost as assault marines. It's not like buying 20 dudes melta-bombs for 25 points will be worth anything after FAQ goes official (although I increasingly suspect they will just roll the clarifications into 8th edition). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defl0 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 I've played with them and against them a bunch of times at this point. They are nearly as bad as you think. They get shredded in shooting and units like contemptors stop them dead in their tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Has anyone tried a list with masses of assault Marines? I'd love to try 2 units of 20 with apothecaries, perhaps with the angels wrath RoW. Now all we need is plastic assault marines.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 ^If you've still got some B@C marines sitting around, hit eBay and grab some Sanguinary Guard jump packs. They're super cheap, plastic and near identical to the MK4 assault squad jump packs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 (edited) I've seen you say the jump packs are cheap before Flint, but I'm always on eBay for them and they cost a fair whack each or are just the only component of the SG not available! Though USA eBay may have more than the UK one if you are based there.... Edited August 4, 2016 by Charlo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 If they're even available at all! The expensive option is buying night raptors and arming to suit IronDrake28 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 I've seen you say the jump packs are cheap before Flint, but I'm always on eBay for them and they cost a fair whack each or are just the only component of the SG not available! Though USA eBay may have more than the UK one if you are based there.... Oh damn, really? I seriously got a batch of 20 for like $30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Even with sanguinary guard jump packs, I don't think tacticals would make good assault Marines because the poses are all wrong. Sure they would work, but proper jump infantry poses would be nice. Plus you'd need to find lots of MKIV arms with chainswords/bolt pistols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 I'll have to counter you on that! Someone on the BA section made some mkiv assault Marines from Calth and they look really awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 If it can be done, awesome I'd love to see them, I just can't see how it would work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Runefyre and ThatOneMarshal 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Those came out pretty nicely, definetly an option for assault squads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Looks like a breacher unit that put all the extra armor on their backpacks. The Calth legs are a bit static and uniform even for tactical marines (I just placed an order for like 50 pteruges to spice them up a bit), but if you're working with a budget, that can certainly work. I would bide my time for a bit, the next boxed set isn't far off, and is rumored to have all the assault marines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 And if not assault marines at least some differently posed legs ala despoiler squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat33.1 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 If they're even available at all! The expensive option is buying night raptors and arming to suit It's a shame FW don't sell the jump packs as an option kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 ^I'm kinda curious why they don't. They'd stack bank on week one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Probably because people still buy the whole kit to get them or something. WELL, the bits sellers on eBay do. We are a desperate lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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