Fibonacci Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Any other positive possibilities in the codex? I may start putting Dominions on the quad gun now just to deny flyers their jink cover save. Seems like a waste of a Fast Attack slot but it would help take out flyers faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Stand back and shoot? Sounds like heresy to me, there is only one order you need to give: attack, attack, attack! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Orlock Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Stand back and shoot? Sounds like heresy to me, there is only one order you need to give: attack, attack, attack! Sure you're not channeling the soul of Khârn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full_ork Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 So are you guys now running 5 woman battle sisters in immolators? Or do Rhino squads still have their place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Blood for the Emperor God! :lol: 10 Sister Rhino mounted squads still have their place, their additional resilience and damage output is useful. They'd do well supporting Immo squads which could get overwhelmed otherwise as they'd be relying on their mobility and special weapons to win the day but the days of fielding them exclusively might well be over for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naminé Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I've gone the other way; massive 20 sister deathstars all out as far as im concerned. You're not going to want to come within 18" of any of them, that's for damn sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreaper84 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 well i for one am having mixed emotions on the priests in particular as they are just great in almost every respect, they make units very hearty and versitile but are dudes....i mean i thought we were in a matriarchy here at least for fluff sake and for 25 he does everything a cannoness does but better and cheaper :( ap2 on int, fearless, hatred, reroll saves, reroll wounds.... i mean we did need this utility but not at the cost of our queen 'o' nuns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grgobart Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 well i for one am having mixed emotions on the priests in particular as they are just great in almost every respect, they make units very hearty and versitile but are dudes....i mean i thought we were in a matriarchy here at least for fluff sake and for 25 he does everything a cannoness does but better and cheaper ap2 on int, fearless, hatred, reroll saves, reroll wounds.... i mean we did need this utility but not at the cost of our queen 'o' nuns If you don't like old geezers lecturing your Sisters on faith during battle, why don't you use female models for priests? I certainly will: and have been doing so since the WDex, with my Marija Jacobus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanska Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 well i for one am having mixed emotions on the priests in particular as they are just great in almost every respect, they make units very hearty and versitile but are dudes....i mean i thought we were in a matriarchy here at least for fluff sake and for 25 he does everything a cannoness does but better and cheaper :( ap2 on int, fearless, hatred, reroll saves, reroll wounds.... i mean we did need this utility but not at the cost of our queen 'o' nuns You do know nothing says you can't field female priests *hint hint*EDIT: ninja'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naminé Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Yeah I was looking at the old bretonnian sorceress aswell for priests, though I don't particularly mind having the odd male character in my army; just like I don't mind having the odd female one amid my space marines :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreaper84 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 i should have clarified i dislike the replacemnet of our iconic leaders more than any gender issues, (btw if they wanted them to be female they would have listed priest/priestess) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 well i for one am having mixed emotions on the priests in particular as they are just great in almost every respect, they make units very hearty and versitile but are dudes....i mean i thought we were in a matriarchy here at least for fluff sake and for 25 he does everything a cannoness does but better and cheaper ap2 on int, fearless, hatred, reroll saves, reroll wounds.... i mean we did need this utility but not at the cost of our queen 'o' nuns They are also Independent Characters now so they can leave and join other units as needed. You could take them as their own unit if you wanted. I am seriously considering using a command squad with 3 to 5 priests attached to it for a few games and see how they work. [edit] I took the time to run some numbers. Command squad with 4 heavy flamers and a Hospitllar joined by 4 priests is not looking so good. They can survive a bit of shooting and are very resilient in close combat with re-roll saves and FnP but not so good in dishing it out. In fact, they actually do better in Overwatch. The problem is of course being S3 in assault. WS3 is also a set back when the priests with smash are only hitting 1/3 of the time. So ... 215 points for a tarpit unit. 255 if you want to put 4 condemnors on the priests. Well, it is what it is. It looks like no matter what I try they will stay a close range shooting army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naminé Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 i should have clarified i dislike the replacemnet of our iconic leaders more than any gender issues, (btw if they wanted them to be female they would have listed priest/priestess) Well to be fair, that's been happening for a long time with Kyrinov and Jacobus on the scene. Now the Canonness got better and the absence of the 'special K' from our codex and if anything our army is more 'womanly' then before! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 i should have clarified i dislike the replacemnet of our iconic leaders more than any gender issues, (btw if they wanted them to be female they would have listed priest/priestess) Ah. I see your point. The Canoness does have three wounds. But then you could take 3 priests for 10 points over her base cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 It's really not a big deal, the priests aren't a member of the Sisterhood and they're accompanying not leading the Sisters - like others have said just use a female model if you want. That aside, it's not really a matriarchy either as the head honcho sits on the Golden Throne and doesn't go by "Empress" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grgobart Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 i should have clarified i dislike the replacemnet of our iconic leaders more than any gender issues, (btw if they wanted them to be female they would have listed priest/priestess) Who cares what they want!$! It's way more important how you want your army to look like, while most opponents just want you to abide the rules of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I plan on using the priest rules to represent my Sabines (who were going to be DCAs, but I never got around to gluing their arms on... he he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvih Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 My uneducated thoughts on the changes so far: - It's nice that Canoness was buffed to be a more viable alternative, because the model is just so friggin' awesome. I'm just not sure why she couldn't have Hatred all the time instead of as a one-off. - Celestine... well, it would've been nice to try him out in his previous incarnation, but the new one still seems quite viable as well. - 2 specials for 5-sister squads is nice, as is dominions getting 4 specials. Not that I have enough models for the latter... - Heavy bolter price increase sucks, thought it was to be expected. At least the HF came down, although that was to be expected as well. - Exorcists going down in price makes them more of a must-have. It's a buff, but still kinda annoying when Retributors got subjectively worse. - Priests are potentially pretty nice. I don't see anything stating the model can't use the highest leadership value in the squad (unlike with say, psyker powers)? Which would mean a pretty darn good chance of rerolls for everyone in combat. Attach a priest or two to a bunch of crusaders and you'd have a pretty durable tarpit unit! If only I had any crusaders, anyway. Or priests, for that matter... though I'd prefer priestesses. These are supposed to be Sisters, after all! - No update on the BT issue, but I suppose that was too much to ask - Condemnor Boltgun could potentially be VERY nutty. Especially against GK it seems to me it'll be basically game-breaking unless FAQed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 It's not so much GK that it breaks as Tzeentch Daemons (Who like putting multiple heralds in screamer squads) and Seer Councils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvih Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Seer councils and such deserve to have someone break them, after all especially the (rerollable) 2++ variety is broken in the other sense of the word as it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afrikprophet Posted October 31, 2013 Author Share Posted October 31, 2013 I just noticed that Dominions don't need a dedicated transport anymore. I think I finally have a place for my jump pack cannoness model. thinking of having her lead a squad of dominions that "grav chuted" along the flanks. purely stylistic but still kinda fun and gets her out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureFodder Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Some good news, it looks like the codex Inquisition will let you field battle conclaves, with power weapons (not limited to powers swords) in Land Raiders with attached priests, which solves the issues with at least one of our units. You just have to pay a few points for an inquisitor HQ (and they can be very cheap). It looks like I might be getting a land Raider in the near future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naminé Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Some good news, it looks like the codex Inquisition will let you field battle conclaves, with power weapons (not limited to powers swords) in Land Raiders with attached priests, which solves the issues with at least one of our units. You just have to pay a few points for an inquisitor HQ (and they can be very cheap). It looks like I might be getting a land Raider in the near future... I'd actually find that quite annoying if they have the power weapon option and we're stuck with power swords. Maybe a mass moan to GW would be in order to try and get it changed :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureFodder Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Some good news, it looks like the codex Inquisition will let you field battle conclaves, with power weapons (not limited to powers swords) in Land Raiders with attached priests, which solves the issues with at least one of our units. You just have to pay a few points for an inquisitor HQ (and they can be very cheap). It looks like I might be getting a land Raider in the near future... I'd actually find that quite annoying if they have the power weapon option and we're stuck with power swords. Maybe a mass moan to GW would be in order to try and get it changed I can confirm that Battle Conclaves have power weapons not power swords. Also Arcos are 5 points more than they are in our codex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 So they are the GK version then. That's, umm, interesting I guess. I'm not sure why the discrepancies between codices when they seem to have been trying to make cross codex units identical lately. I wonder if ours will be changed to match the Inquisition/GK conclaves at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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