Memento Of Prospero Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 The advantage of outflanking in transporta is that it gives you lots of mobility mid and late game, which drop pods do not provide Trydragon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4224559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonknight Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Just got the Betrayal at Calth set and I see some discussions on other threads on how other legions are incorporating the new mini's into their forces. I was just wondering how my Iron Hands brothers are kitting them out? Especially the termies and contemptor? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4230614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Just got the Betrayal at Calth set and I see some discussions on other threads on how other legions are incorporating the new mini's into their forces. I was just wondering how my Iron Hands brothers are kitting them out? Especially the termies and contemptor? The answer for a sane player would be magnets for the contemptor. When I get my hands on the set, I will definitely make some Seekers, destroyers or recon marines with them, maybe sprinkle a couple into my existing squads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4230664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomMarine Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) I'm using it to bulk out squads. And adding some random bits to the mk4 so I can call it mk5 http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah274/mortiscorax29/Ironhands%2030k/IMG_20151121_230419_zpstxndgszc.jpg Edited November 21, 2015 by RandomMarine Memento Of Prospero 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4231432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I'm sorely tempted to go into 30k Iron hands, so I was hoping to ask what a good start would be. I already have a Sicaran Tank and a lot of rhinos, along with a plasma predator and a lot of space marines. What is a good start for them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4233434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Castrmen Orth! Him inside a Sicaran is death to any vehicle less than a Fellblade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4233440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I was thinking that myself, but other than that what kind of things would be a good starting point? Gorgon Terminators? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4233452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 That depends on your vision of your army. Min/Maxing is all fine and well if you are a gamer and not a hobbyist. If you want to run the head of the Gorgon rite of war, a spartan is a great staple and iconic tsnk in the heresy, especially for the iron hands as we enhance it's durability even further. Contemptors go along the same lines. In general, the value of armour increases the more you have beyond a certain tipping point. Predators are great for their squadron sizes. If you have the turrets, 3 dakka preds put quite a dent in anything not in terminator armour. If you have tons of rhinos, making support squads is a good idea. You can also go pride of the legion and run your marines as vets. Lastly, Castellax are amazing for Iron Hands. Doubly so with a Praevian, and darkfire lances are just great against all of the things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4233517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Iron Hands Castellax may be the best way to run them, AdMech included. Hell, you could be even more obnoxious and add a void shield harness in there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4233518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 That depends on your vision of your army. Min/Maxing is all fine and well if you are a gamer and not a hobbyist. If you want to run the head of the Gorgon rite of war, a spartan is a great staple and iconic tsnk in the heresy, especially for the iron hands as we enhance it's durability even further. Contemptors go along the same lines. In general, the value of armour increases the more you have beyond a certain tipping point. Predators are great for their squadron sizes. If you have the turrets, 3 dakka preds put quite a dent in anything not in terminator armour. If you have tons of rhinos, making support squads is a good idea. You can also go pride of the legion and run your marines as vets. Lastly, Castellax are amazing for Iron Hands. Doubly so with a Praevian, and darkfire lances are just great against all of the things. Hmm. I would like a lot of tanks and heavy armor, maybe as a Head of the Gorgon thing... But I could also see myself do pride of the legion. And I would like a nice thematic force for my slowly growing Admech Army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4233571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Gorgon terminators are a great clean up crew for Iron Hands. We ten to attrition and seek short ranged fire fights, and that's where they prevent your opponent from sweeping intonyour lines after taking some tough losses. Also, proteus landraiders are the bomb. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4234060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 They're great for screwing with the enemy, too. Blind tests, blind tests for all! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4234101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonknight Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Just got the Betrayal at Calth set and I see some discussions on other threads on how other legions are incorporating the new mini's into their forces. I was just wondering how my Iron Hands brothers are kitting them out? Especially the termies and contemptor? The answer for a sane player would be magnets for the contemptor. When I get my hands on the set, I will definitely make some Seekers, destroyers or recon marines with them, maybe sprinkle a couple into my existing squads. Very true. :) I also am planning on using the troops to bulk out a few squads. What about the cataphractii? I have 10 man Gorgon beatstick in a Spartan (which is awsome!!) but I am not sure how to equip the cataphractii? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4234134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 If you swag them up on bionics, the cataphractii could also be sprinkled into your existing Gorgon units. Since Gorgons > cataphractii in most situations, I don't see any real use to using standard termis in a Iron Hands force. Plus it would represent the infinite customization embodiement of the Iron Tenth ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4234148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonknight Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Good idea! :) How would you kit them out? CF on two + grav? The squad will be seven. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4234252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I like a chainfist in every 3 models. 2 in squads of 5, 3 in squads of 10. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4234279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonknight Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Would you consider LC or PF on any? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4234341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 So would you say the Calth armor you get would be good for them? I was thinking of 4 powerfists and the thunder hammer. Also which Land Raider should I use for them when running with characters? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4234362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Since Gorgons are minimum 5, the instant you add 1 its Spartan/Storm Eagle/Kharybdis territory. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4234387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) Spartan is king, and we're even better at keeping them alive than the other schlubs. Edited November 24, 2015 by Raktra Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4234433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Spelt Grav Chum wrong Raktra ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4234434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Yes but the spartan is so expensive money wise and point wise! Anyways, I think I understand now. I'm thinking of a pride list with a bunch of rhinos so I may do that soon. Otherwise, what other support would be good? The iron hands seems to be rather straight forward compared to the Raven Guard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4234619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 So would you say the Calth armor you get would be good for them? I was thinking of 4 powerfists and the thunder hammer. Also which Land Raider should I use for them when running with characters? It all depends on how much you want to stick to cannon fluffyness VS liberal creative choice. I will have some MKIVs, but they will be resin. To get into the game though get 1 starter set is great. Yes but the spartan is so expensive money wise and point wise! Anyways, I think I understand now. I'm thinking of a pride list with a bunch of rhinos so I may do that soon. Otherwise, what other support would be good? The iron hands seems to be rather straight forward compared to the Raven Guard. If you run pride, dreadnoughts are great mobile shooting platforms. Sicarans are great as they can hunt just about anything from far away, and they will draw fire like nothing else. Leaving your rhinos to rush forward unmolested first turn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4234626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 No powerfists. Chain fists or power axe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4234639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 As a sidenote, anyone elae excited as college kids on spring break for Leviathan dreads? They look Iron Hands as hell and got GRAV guns ductaped together in true overkill fashion. Tiger9gamer, Raktra and xxunphasedxx 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/25/#findComment-4239975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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