Debski Bowden Lorgar and the like....

[miller_gooner]

I would love his take on them all!!!

[Wade Garrett]

*Sigh*

 

Yes, Lorgar says Sanguinus can beat up everyone except Angron and Horus.

 

Lorgar also says that worshipping the Ruinous Powers is totally the best idea ever and that he himself could take Corax if they ever had a rematch.

 

Do you see why some might be a bit hesitant to use his acessment as the final word in the Primarch butt kicking rankings?

[Balthamal]

Granted Wade.

 

But I don't see the difference in the way Sang is built up compared to, say, the Ultramarine love dished out by GW. Although it was easier to bear back in the days when their pride got them smacked down by the nids. It's just their take on it to be fair.

 

Personally I've always liked how Sanguinius has been described over the years but I'll withhold final judgement until after the last day at Terra. Who knows I might have my mind changed as was the case with Gulliman and Lorgar who I thought were boring and dull before The First Heretic came along

[Wade Garrett]

"Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment!"

:p

 

Seriously, it's always possible that someone can "fix" Sanguinus the way Savage Weapons and Unremembered Empire undid some of the damage other HH works did to the Lion.

 

And I hope they do! Sanguinus

should live up to the hype and have a David Gemmelian showing at the Siege of Terra, with his demise bringing manly tears to eyes even if the reader is female.

 

But as he's currently been portrayed...

[miller_gooner]

Sanguinius - what a dreamy hunk of a guy haa

[depthcharge12]

I would be glad if they gave Sanguinius some better light and write about him as the beast he really is.

 

Oh and to spite Wade :P

 

 

I do get the feeling however of some nascent knee-jerkers lying in wait to pounce upon Sanguinius after he trashes most of the primarch line up as "golly he is such a spheshul snowflake and has plot armor and sucks because he can beat up my primarch."

 

 

And then: "golly 2 tech thralls armed with combat knives almost killed him because he was playing with a rubix cube"

 

 

and finally: ADB says "Stop being fewls. Do I need to break one of these up again?" 

 

 

 

im just trying to get it out of the system before it happens

[Wade Garrett]

Whatever, depthcharge.

 

You want a Primarch that was in Guilliman's Dauntless Few? A Primarch that was willing to throw down with his most beloved brother to the death? A Primarch whose Legion has a tragic flaw?

 

I give you Old Metal Hands himself. And HE did all that before it was cool.

 

But you'll never see people on this forum waxing poetic on how the Emperor should have made Ferrus the Warmaster.

 

Presumably because Ferrus spends his time engaged in smelting iron and other similarly manly activities instead of taking half the day to moisturize his skin and condition his hair so he can be FAAAAAAAAAbulous.

[Dumah]

*Ferrus

 

Sorry...I had to.

[Scribe]

Ferrus had obvious control issues, you dont see anyone making calls for Angron as Warmaster!

 

Someone (hey ADB, hows it going) just needs to write a BA book that makes us aware of WHY the contemporaries felt Sangy and friends where cool.

[Augustus]

Ferrus will get his rehab just like the Lion is getting his, and Lorgar and Angron got theirs.

[Kagarre Havariss]

The BA made a really promising first appearance to the Heresy in Horus Rising. Fear to Tread was just a bit meh.

 

I really don't get Swallow either, he just can't write BA. Eisenstein is great, I loved Nemesis but the 40k BA trilogy suck. Does he secretly hate BA or something?

 

I love the BA, they are my favourite legion followed a close second by NL, I believe wholeheartedly that Sanguinius is a badass cos I have faith but I also wanna see it happen!

[TheAurelian]

Thank you Vesper, that was point I was trying to make. I was trying to get at the point that they are so similar. And yes Horus was the 

"only" choice as warmaster. Please Correct Me If I'm Wrong, but this is always how it has been related to me or how i have perceived it when reading online snippets about the warmaster and the emperor final showdown. The emperor in all his might and power who has lasted against age and the relentless attacks of the gods in their vile wickedness, could if he so chose to end horus at any time, BUT through his infinite compassion and mercy he really didn't want to have to kill his own son, which is why he has taken so long to confront Horus. As the emperor comes to horus on the vengeful spirit he still tries to reason with him. horus then swollen with the might of the ruinous power fights with the emperor. epic showdown commences. The emperor who has been holding back because he still is reluctant to kill horus has taken greivous wounds. As horus is standing triumphant about to stike the killing blow, one lone army trooper man the lowest of the low defys horus an stand in his way, this man is killed by horus obviously, at this moment the emperor realizes in light of this sacrifice that he cannot allow horus to continue slays his son with his psychic might (rumored small dent in horus's armor caused by fight with sanguinius).  again please correct me if this is tom foolery and the epitome of ignorance. 

 

 

On a side note mabe this does not belong in this section of the forum but here she blows , star child theorys some say part of the emperor was cast from his body( the compassion he rid himself of in order to kill his favored son) into the war and the emperor will not be reincarnated untill he has left the golden throne and his soul is made one again. also this is wild conjecture here in the first heretic lorgar talks about how the emperor was destined to bring humanity into the stars but never would they have controll of the universe due to faulty imperial truth and the like or something of the sort blah blah blah and it seemed to me that after the emperor was reincarnated (star child) he would return to lay waste to his foes) 

 

some regard this as heresy in its purest form so please be kind haha

[helterskelter]

So whoes willing to bet the soldier standing in the way is old person or john grammaticalerrors?

[TheAurelian]

So whoes willing to bet the soldier standing in the way is old person or john grammaticalerroi 

 

i for sure think trooper persons

[Wade Garrett]

Dang.

 

Emps sees Horus strutting around the Vengeful Spirit covered in Sanguinus's blood, and he still can't get his fight on? And here I thought I was being unfair and overly hateful to the Angel.

 

To say nothing of the billions were slaughtered on Terra because "the Emperor could have ended Horus at any time, but in his infinite mercy and compassion chose not to strike down his Son".

 

This guy running the show is preferrable to the Chaos Gods HOW, exactly?

[GhostMalone]

I feel that the emp just wanted to protect Horus and save him, like a parent with an addict child.

 

I feel horus truly was his favoured and his one true weakness, sort of like a firstborn son

[Cactus]

...Mr. Abnett writes the destruction of Caliban and the final battle between Luther and the Lion?

I just had a nerdgasm at that thought. Oooh.

[Wade Garrett]

See, when the addict child has just burned down the orphanage, the hospital, and the old folks home; then killed his baby brother with a meat cleaver, and dad still is unable to take steps to settle the boy down even when he starts getting chopped with the meat cleaver himself? Then we start to get ideas about why the addict child turned out the way he did.

 

If we take the Will King account as gospel the Emperor might as well have paused on his way to confront Horus so he could urinate on the graves of Sang, Malcador, Ferrus, and everyone else who died on the Loyalist side during the Heresy.

[Scribe]

We've been down this road brother...it cant remain this way, the modern story wont hold up if it does.

[Wade Garrett]

We've been down this road brother...it cant remain this way, the modern story wont hold up if it does.

Yes, I'm repeating myself in this thread, I know.

 

BUT IT MAKES ME SO DOGGONE ANGRY EVERY TIME IT COMES UP! :)

[GhostMalone]

I feel that the emp will be drained and crippled by the Golden throne and the secret war in the webway, so when he's travelling to confront horus he may be at like 20% charge and during the final battle does an energy drain that puts him at critical hence his installation into the throne.

 

Or Horus is interred on the golden throne instead ;)

[Scribe]

Nah (I am going to repeat myself now) it needs to be both at their max, both ready willing and able, to throw down with the might of gods behind them, and Sanguinius going down needs to mean something, needs to open the door, just as Ol' needs to mean something and the Emperor final giving it all he has to end Horus.

 

It so badly needs to be done right, and there's only one to do it...

[Kol Saresk]

Nah (I am going to repeat myself now) it needs to be both at their max, both ready willing and able, to throw down with the might of gods behind them, and Sanguinius going down needs to mean something, needs to open the door, just as Ol' needs to mean something and the Emperor final giving it all he has to end Horus.

 

It so badly needs to be done right, and there's only one to do it...

Deadpool?

[fission]

 

Nah (I am going to repeat myself now) it needs to be both at their max, both ready willing and able, to throw down with the might of gods behind them, and Sanguinius going down needs to mean something, needs to open the door, just as Ol' needs to mean something and the Emperor final giving it all he has to end Horus.

 

It so badly needs to be done right, and there's only one to do it...

Deadpool?

Lol Deadpool is a mix between Conrad Curze and Vulkan

[Kol Saresk]

You just killed Deadpool for me.