New Ebook Updates

[lcannard]

The ebook has been updated recently. Only change I can see so far is Condemnor Boltguns only cause Perils if a Psyker takes an unsaved wound from it.

 

Damn.

[Da Taz]

1. That sucks! Still not bad.

[lcannard]

For that 10 points, I'd now rather take a combi-melta or plasma.

[tvih]

For that 10 points, I'd now rather take a combi-melta or plasma.

Yup. Requiring a psyker to take an unsaved wound means it's basically only moderately useful against all-psyker units or solo psyker models such as certain daemon MCs. But especially in the latter case, a single S5 attack isn't likely gonna cause one.... pfff. Definitely would rather take a combi-melta or combi-plasma instead.

[Rasp]

So only the ebook was updated? Not the iphone/iPad version?

 

Weird.

 

Rasp

[lcannard]

So only the ebook was updated? Not the iphone/iPad version?

 

Weird.

 

Rasp

 

I think that's down to Apple needing to check it before uploading to the App Store. 

[Rasp]

While I think that the condemner bolt gun was probably a bit too overpowered with "if the unit is hit" , going back to the model must suffer an unsaved wound, will relegate it back to obscurity.

[Vigrid Of Asgaror]

Expected as much. They have to make sure psyker aren't hurt too much.

[andrewm9]

The psi shock rule does not say that at all. It says that a psyker must be hit and it takes a perils of the warp hit. Let me say it again. Its 'hit' not an 'unsaved wound'.

[lcannard]

The psi shock rule does not say that at all. It says that a psyker must be hit and it takes a perils of the warp hit. Let me say it again. Its 'hit' not an 'unsaved wound'.

The ebook has been updated. Redownload it to see the change.

[Fibonacci]

No more unit; no more hit. You have one chance and it needs to cause an unsaved wound on a psyker.* Oh well, it was fun for a couple of weeks at least.

 

I am not surprised it was changed but I had hoped it would be more like the Witch Hunter version (Assault 2, wounds psykers on 2+, invulnerable saves only) instead of the White Dwarf version.

 

[edit to add]

with a 2+ Look Out, Sir roll followed by cover or armor saves, what's the likelihood of that happening?

 

Against a Libriarian ....

66% chance to hit

66% chance to wound

17% chance to miss LO,S

33% chance to fail armor save

(drum roll, please)

roughly a 2% chance of causing a PotW

[Rasp]

And that's if you finangle the condemners wound to be allocated to librarian in the first place!

[PureFodder]

No more unit; no more hit. You have one chance and it needs to cause an unsaved wound on a psyker.* Oh well, it was fun for a couple of weeks at least.

 

I am not surprised it was changed but I had hoped it would be more like the Witch Hunter version (Assault 2, wounds psykers on 2+, invulnerable saves only) instead of the White Dwarf version.

 

[edit to add]

with a 2+ Look Out, Sir roll followed by cover or armor saves, what's the likelihood of that happening?

 

Against a Libriarian ....

66% chance to hit

66% chance to wound

17% chance to miss LO,S

33% chance to fail armor save

(drum roll, please)

roughly a 2% chance of causing a PotW

That also assumes that they are dumb enough to stand the Librarian at the front of the unit.

 

It was fun while it lasted, but ultimately there are far more screamstar/Jetseer players than there are SoB players, and we couldn't possibly allow anything that would hurt their precious deathstars could we.....  Not until they allow D weapons into regular 40k games at least.

[AdmLancel]

Figures.

[Rasp]

Anyone know when the iBook version will get updated?

[xFallenx]

The iBook psi-shock special rule currently states that any 'Psyker hit suffers a perils of the warp in edition to...." blah blah blah. I don't recall how it was worded prior, but to me it reads far differently that it had before.

[AdmLancel]

It's pretty much the same, though I don't have an old copy in front of me. It's clear to me the only differnece is that it's on an unsaved wound now as opposed to on hit, just like the WDex.

 

The only other noteworthy thing I saw is that they corrected the allies gaff as well. A note mentions that you use the Sisters of Battle entry. So yay, we can legitimately use allies again.

[BaronTuman]

Nice, now I'm saved from pulling them out of their box and doing conversions thinking that they actually had something interesting about them... :P  Stupid GW....

[andrewm9]

 

 

The psi shock rule does not say that at all. It says that a psyker must be hit and it takes a perils of the warp hit. Let me say it again. Its 'hit' not an 'unsaved wound'.

The ebook has been updated. Redownload it to see the change.

I have. That's what my book says and its the most recent download for my Ibook version. Unless the 2 books are different somehow mine says hit not unsaved wound. I still must hit a psyker with the shot though.

[lcannard]

I have. That's what my book says and its the most recent download for my Ibook version. Unless the 2 books are different somehow mine says hit not unsaved wound. I still must hit a psyker with the shot though.

 

Guess iTunes is just slow to update then.

[Fibonacci]

I guess the iTunes people can still cause a PotW on a hit but they can't take or be taken as allies ;)

[xFallenx]

I guess the iTunes people can still cause a PotW on a hit but they can't take or be taken as allies ;)

Where can I find (or not find allies as it were) that? According to FW Red hunters with an inquisitor can be BB(S) with Sisters of Battle.... Or is that the issue now that we're Adepta Sororitas & not Sisters of Battle?

[AdmLancel]

I guess the iTunes people can still cause a PotW on a hit but they can't take or be taken as allies

Where can I find (or not find allies as it were) that? According to FW Red hunters with an inquisitor can be BB(S) with Sisters of Battle.... Or is that the issue now that we're Adepta Sororitas & not Sisters of Battle?

The issue is only one of rules lawyering, but you've said it right there, allied with Sisters of Battle, but the army's name is Adepta Sororitas. The original version of the codex neglected to account for that. I don't think it referenced allies at all in fact.

Most people wouldn't complain, as it's clearly the intent, but it did mean that if you wanted to go to tournaments you shouldn't take any allies, as it was a liability to your tournament qualification until they errataed it.

[Fibonacci]

It was a joke. There are only two changes in the new version.

The "Allies rules clarifications" was a no brainer but they had to include it as a designer's note at least.

[andrewm9]

The Ibook version has the note about allies included already as well. Its found on page 63. The condemnor is 'hit a psyker' which is a change from the previous version.