DominikB Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I fear the LR List is a lot less scary than it seems sadly, a similar list was proposed on the BT section to which people said it would get glanced to death or still a bit of melta around/MC/Walkers :) I think it lookes better on paper than in practice especially at 2k points Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3528729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwit Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I fear the LR List is a lot less scary than it seems sadly, a similar list was proposed on the BT section to which people said it would get glanced to death or still a bit of melta around/MC/Walkers :) I think it lookes better on paper than in practice especially at 2k points I think this list has more legs than you give it credit for. Dont forget you'll have small army of servo skulls to keep scouts and infiltrators away. You have cotz giving you the best interceptor rule going. Throw in some grey knights for warp quakes and you can effectively keep the melts at bay. Outside melta what is seriously going to damage this list? Also you still have 2 dev squads worth of twin li led lascannons. Potential 4+ invuns from divination powers that will protect the lNd raiders. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3528758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominikB Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I fear the LR List is a lot less scary than it seems sadly, a similar list was proposed on the BT section to which people said it would get glanced to death or still a bit of melta around/MC/Walkers :) I think it lookes better on paper than in practice especially at 2k points I think this list has more legs than you give it credit for. Dont forget you'll have small army of servo skulls to keep scouts and infiltrators away. You have cotz giving you the best interceptor rule going. Throw in some grey knights for warp quakes and you can effectively keep the melts at bay. Outside melta what is seriously going to damage this list? Also you still have 2 dev squads worth of twin li led lascannons. Potential 4+ invuns from divination powers that will protect the lNd raiders. As much as I want to agree, MCs tau shooting etc there is a lot more out there, it definitely looks like a solid list but not top tier :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3528788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
We are Legion Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 a double force org Inquisition Primary, Inquisition detachment, and everything in Valkyries. Okay six Valkyries scares the hell out of me, it also scares the hell out of my wallet, maybe some Imperial Fist allies to take care of AA buildings or tanks on the first turn before your Valks come in? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3528880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Landraiders are back baby! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3528994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 a double force org Inquisition Primary, Inquisition detachment, and everything in Valkyries. Okay six Valkyries scares the hell out of me, it also scares the hell out of my wallet, maybe some Imperial Fist allies to take care of AA buildings or tanks on the first turn before your Valks come in? That'd actually be nine Valkyries :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3529041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 So many frag blasts....so little time haha. I'm interested to see if anyone makes an Air Cav list out of Inquisition. Could be in for some amusing times ahead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3529078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Or how about this.... Flying Monkeys ;) Inquisitors, Valkyries, Jokaero air dropping with heavy flamers. Now if I can only get Flight of the Valkyries to play with the wicked witch of the west broomstick theme... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3529086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
We are Legion Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Or how about this.... Flying Monkeys Inquisitors, Valkyries, Jokaero air dropping with heavy flamers. Now if I can only get Flight of the Valkyries to play with the wicked witch of the west broomstick theme... too... damn... expensive... in both points and money--though I have some of the OLD obliterators that I've been considering using as Jokaero stand-ins... some kind of mechanicus soldier or something... still, they're too fragile and too costly to be grav-chuting out of a Valkyrie. Also: I think 6 valkyries is enough... remember you still have to have something on the table by the end of the first turn otherwise its an insta-loss. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3529275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I'm interested to see if anyone makes an Air Cav list out of Inquisition Your wish! HQ: Inquisitor (25) Elite: Warrior Accolyte x3, Valkyrie, Lascannon, 2 x Multiple Rocket Pods, 2 x Heavy Bolter Side Sponsons (167) Elite: Warrior Accolyte x3, Valkyrie, Lascannon, 2 x Multiple Rocket Pods, 2 x Heavy Bolter Side Sponsons (167) Elite: Warrior Accolyte x3, Valkyrie, Lascannon, 2 x Multiple Rocket Pods, 2 x Heavy Bolter Side Sponsons (167) Fortitifaction: Aegis Line, Comms Relay (70) HQ: Inquisitor (25) Elite: Warrior Accolyte x3, Valkyrie, Lascannon, 2 x Multiple Rocket Pods, 2 x Heavy Bolter Side Sponsons (167) Elite: Warrior Accolyte x3, Valkyrie, Lascannon, 2 x Multiple Rocket Pods, 2 x Heavy Bolter Side Sponsons (167) Elite: Warrior Accolyte x3, Valkyrie, Lascannon, 2 x Multiple Rocket Pods, 2 x Heavy Bolter Side Sponsons (167) HQ: Coteaz (100) Elite: Warrior Accolyte x3, Valkyrie, Lascannon, 2 x Multiple Rocket Pods, 2 x Heavy Bolter Side Sponsons (167) Elite: Warrior Accolyte x3, Valkyrie, Lascannon, 2 x Multiple Rocket Pods, 2 x Heavy Bolter Side Sponsons (167) Elite: Warrior Accolyte x3, Valkyrie, Lascannon, 2 x Multiple Rocket Pods, 2 x Heavy Bolter Side Sponsons (167) Total: 1,723 All you need to do now is choose your Ally, to provide the ZOMG must live First turn support. You have 277 points left for this. I'd have an Inquisitor with Psychic Communion, to stack that with the Comms Relay to get your Valks in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3529310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 You can only Reserve half your units though :( so those poor Acolytes are gonna have to be on the ground to some extent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3529723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Meh, amazing how little weapons can fire without line of sight to their targets :) It's all about planning and terrain placement ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3529726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 You can only Reserve half your units though so those poor Acolytes are gonna have to be on the ground to some extent. RD. ;) Units embarked in transports that have to start in reserves aren't counted (nor are any attached ICs). It's why all Drop Pod armies still exist! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3529744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwit Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Ai. Be funny if you failed 9 reserve rolls though and defaulted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3529757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I'm probably going to feel stupid asking this but what update? This is my first e-codex. Is there a feature I'm unaware of? If you have the iPad version it should* update automatically. If you bought your copy from the Black Library you have to go to your downloads and re-download it. It won't say a version number but whenever you re-download it it is always to most up to date 'dex. The Digital Editions page on FB is usually a good place to check for news, that's how I found out there was an update and only on accident. *Note: It doesn't always do this and has been buggy. Good luck :( I'm pretty pumped to buy my first LRR and let the assassins flow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3531270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallodx Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Oh...So 3 LRs with DCA/Crusader, 3 Valkyries with WA......I'll piss my pants wet if I really see this... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3531277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Hmmm, if that's all you want then; Primary Codex: Inquisition HQ: OX Inquisitor, Rad, Psycho (55) HQ: OX Inquisitor, Rad, Psycho (55) Elite: 9x DCA/Crusader, 2x Priest, 2xMeltabombs, LRR, MM, Psyflame (430) Elite: 9x DCA/Crusader, 2x Priest, 2xMeltabombs, LRR, MM, Psyflame (430) Elite: 9x DCA/Crusader, 2x Priest, 2xMeltabombs, LRR, MM, Psyflame (430) Inquisitorial Detachment HQ: Coteaz (100) HQ: OX Inquisitor, Rad, Psycho (55) Elite: Warrior Accolyte x3, Valkyrie, Lascannon, 2 x Multiple Rocket Pods, 2 x Heavy Bolter Side Sponsons (167) Elite: Warrior Accolyte x3, Valkyrie, Lascannon, 2 x Multiple Rocket Pods, 2 x Heavy Bolter Side Sponsons (167) Elite: Warrior Accolyte x3, Valkyrie, Lascannon, 2 x Multiple Rocket Pods, 2 x Heavy Bolter Side Sponsons (167) Total: 2,056 So you need to chop down a little, plus figure somewhere to put Coteaz. I'd also purchase PML1 for the OX Inquisitors (who all join a Squad in a LRR), and leave one of your HQs with Psychic Communion. So maybe drop one henchmen squad down to 10, and stick both Coteaz and the PC Inquisitor in it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3531302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallodx Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 My head hurt......Maybe I should buy more WHFB models and mod them into henchmen. Chaos warrior as Crusader, Dark elf Witch Elf as DCA...etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3531312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 You don't need to call that a detachment, Gentlemanloser. That's simply a double force org at 2000 points army straight from Codex: =][= :) You could also just convert Coteaz to a standard Inquisitor and not mess with the warband configuration. Lots of ways to tinker it though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3531318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I wasn't thinking of Dual FoC, as no one I know plays it. But you're right, it's better as a Dual FoC; HQ: OX Inquisitor, Rad, Psycho (55) HQ: OX Inquisitor, Rad, Psycho (55) Elite: 9x DCA/Crusader, 2x Priest, 2xMeltabombs, LRR, MM, Psyflame (430) Elite: 9x DCA/Crusader, 2x Priest, 2xMeltabombs, LRR, MM, Psyflame (430) Elite: 9x DCA/Crusader, 2x Priest, 2xMeltabombs, LRR, MM, Psyflame (430) HQ: OX Inquisitor, Rad, Psycho (55) Elite: Warrior Accolyte x3, Valkyrie, Lascannon, 2 x Multiple Rocket Pods, 2 x Heavy Bolter Side Sponsons (167) Elite: Warrior Accolyte x3, Valkyrie, Lascannon, 2 x Multiple Rocket Pods, 2 x Heavy Bolter Side Sponsons (167) Elite: Warrior Accolyte x3, Valkyrie, Lascannon, 2 x Multiple Rocket Pods, 2 x Heavy Bolter Side Sponsons (167) Total: 1,956 Now all you need to decide is how many Divination/PC Inquisitors do you need, and how many Servo Skulls do you want. And shift things accordingly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3531359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallodx Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 It doesn't need to be a dual chart I believe, since there's a "Inquisition detachment", that is not a ally detachment. You can have a main detachment and a inquisition detachment, as long as we can make it ~1999. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3531452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Doing it that way requires Coteaz in the Allied detachment to make them scoring. As in the first list. Which pushes up the points a little too much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3531507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Morgrim Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Im thinking about my unit as 7 warrior acolytes with bolters, 3 plasma servitors and 2 jokaero loaded up in a valkyrie with heavy bolter sponsoons.....what do you think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3531960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Im thinking about my unit as 7 warrior acolytes with bolters, 3 plasma servitors and 2 jokaero loaded up in a valkyrie with heavy bolter sponsoons.....what do you think? I would say it sounds better for a psymera bunker, unless dropping them in syngergizes with your army/plan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3533507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Got it! The 9 Razorback / 13 Chimera list lives! :D It requires 2k and Dual FoC though. Sure, AV13/14 is going to be a pain, but little else will be. And imagine the look of sheer terror when your opponent watches you unpack 22 Rhino/Chimera chassis. :D I present; Primary Detachment – Inquisition; HQ: Inquisitor, Servo Skull x2 (31)Elite: Warrior Acolyte x3, Razorback, Psybolt Ammo (57) Elite: Warrior Acolyte x3, Razorback, Psybolt Ammo (57) Elite: Warrior Acolyte x3, Razorback, Psybolt Ammo (57) Primary Detachment – Inquisition; HQ: Inquisitor, Servo Skull x2 (31) Elite: Warrior Acolyte x3, Razorback, Psybolt Ammo (57)Elite: Warrior Acolyte x3, Razorback, Psybolt Ammo (57) Elite: Warrior Acolyte x3, Razorback, Psybolt Ammo (57) Inquisitorial Detachment; HQ: Coteaz (100) Elite: Warrior Acolyte x3, Razorback, Psybolt Ammo (57) Elite: Warrior Acolyte x3, Razorback, Psybolt Ammo (57) Elite: Warrior Acolyte x3, Razorback, Psybolt Ammo (57) Allied Detachment – Imperial Guard; HQ: CCS, Chimera (105) Troop: PCS, Chimera (85) Troop: Infantry Squad, Chimera (105) Troop: Infantry Squad, Chimera (105) Troop: Infantry Squad, Chimera (105) Troop: Infantry Squad, Chimera (105) Troop: Infantry Squad, Chimera (105) Troop: PCS, Chimera (85) Troop: Infantry Squad, Chimera (105) Troop: Infantry Squad, Chimera (105)Troop: Infantry Squad, Chimera (105) Troop: Infantry Squad, Chimera (105) Troop: Infantry Squad, Chimera (105) Total: 2,000 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283624-codex-henchmen-what-type-of-warbands-are-you-taking/page/2/#findComment-3535501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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