Cpt_Reaper Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/10/17/space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue-if-the-series-had-continued/?ns_campaign=article-feed&ns_mchannel=ref&ns_source=steam&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0 So yeah...Ventris Mk 2.0 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincite Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Sounds weird in summary, but I suppose it makes sense. Space Marines go Renegade somehow, and those reasons are quite typical. A pity we won't see it. I'd have liked to see what they could do with Red Corsairs-style renegades. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/#findComment-3532888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinoDoc Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I like this comment from there: So the real reason THQ got :cussed was because HERESY?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/#findComment-3533032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Interesting that he would go rogue (and oddly intriguing that in the third game he'd straight up Found another chapter with his mates...). I wonder how long he would last before the =][= caught up with him again (if they actually let him escape out of their scrutiny)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/#findComment-3533261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I like this comment from there: So the real reason THQ got was because HERESY?! Exactly. The reach of the Inquisition is long my brother, and no-one is above suspicion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/#findComment-3533294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 It's a pity we'll never see these 2 sequel games, it would be cool to have seen a grizzled Titus- Angelos style, rallying his chapter around him at the end of the game. It'd be even better if an interred dreadnought Sidonus<sp?> was there as well. celebrating their firing of Leandros from a :cuss airlock after an allied boarding action Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/#findComment-3534319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Worth noting that 'Go rogue' was indeed in quotes. Which could mean anything, from leaving the Ultras and becoming that Inquisitor's personal Astartes to actually whole-hog Chaos worship. If the former, I could see him staying independent of Macragge and being 'rewarded' with his own Chapter of Space Marines who are happy to do the Inquisition's/High Lords' dogwork. And now I have a mental image of Titus as the first Chapter Master of the 'new' Minotaurs, inheriting the heraldry of the long-dead Minotaurs and sometimes telling Calgar where to stuff it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/#findComment-3535144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord-Captain Cepinari Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Sounded to me like it was less "turning to Chaos" and more "going all crazy-ass vigilante that blatantly ignores all attempts by his superiors to reign him in." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/#findComment-3535301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Sounds more like the creation of the Sons of Medusa, where there was an idealogical schism between a few (clan companies worth?) members and the rest of the chapter. Titus undergoes pennance crusade to prove his purity, barely survives, rallies those loyal to him and mistrustful of the inquisition from UM, Calgar allows secession of that lot from the chapter rather than all out intr chapter war. It sounds like it would have been awesome. A barely surviving Titus screams bionics to be, imagine all the fun that could be had! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/#findComment-3535919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Sounded to me like it was less "turning to Chaos" and more "going all crazy-ass vigilante that blatantly ignores all attempts by his superiors to reign him in." My thoughts exactly. Sounds more like the creation of the Sons of Medusa, where there was an idealogical schism between a few (clan companies worth?) members and the rest of the chapter. Titus undergoes pennance crusade to prove his purity, barely survives, rallies those loyal to him and mistrustful of the inquisition from UM, Calgar allows secession of that lot from the chapter rather than all out intr chapter war. Also this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/#findComment-3535948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamafore Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Though what happened to the Space Marine license thingy after THQ went down? Is it possible that this might still happen? To me, a story like that would depend heavily on the writing. Write it good, and awesomeness ensues. Write it badly, and it turns out like those Centurions nobody likes to talk about. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/#findComment-3544234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareddm Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 After THQ broke up, it seems GW has decided to make broad changes to the way they deal with the 40k IP for video games. They've become far more loose, many say too loose, as they are allowing any dev, regardless of size or talent, to make a 40k game. That said, I still believe there is zero chance of this particular story happening as I don't believe the specific team that was working on Space Marine even exists anymore. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/#findComment-3545049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilbad Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 After THQ broke up, it seems GW has decided to make broad changes to the way they deal with the 40k IP for video games. They've become far more loose, many say too loose, as they are allowing any dev, regardless of size or talent, to make a 40k game. That said, I still believe there is zero chance of this particular story happening as I don't believe the specific team that was working on Space Marine even exists anymore. Well, SEGA bought all THQ rights for 40k games, and as i heard - they also were on talk with Relic regarding acquisition of the studio. Although there is no other information regarding the destiny of the Relic after that. As for GW becoming "loose" on 40k franchise - that is totally wrong. GW was always hard to deal with in matters of giving rights for development within their gaming universes. From what i know, HeroCraft, Relic and maybe 1 or 2 other dev-teams are the only ones who has been given legal rights for 40k games lately. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/#findComment-3545237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareddm Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Off the top of my head, there's Slitherine, Eutechnyx, Herocraft, Behavior Interactive, Relic, and Full Control. That's quite an increase from the last 10 years. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/#findComment-3545866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I suspect there would have been a vast chasm between what Raphael van Lierop was planning and what GW IP would have been willing to approve. An Ultramarines Captain going rogue and ending up founding his own Chapter sounds like the worst kind of fan-fiction nonsense that would have been shot down in the first pitch meeting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/#findComment-3546821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Going rogue by joining the Inquisition permanently is eminently conceivable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/#findComment-3547132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincite Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 An Ultramarines Captain going rogue and ending up founding his own Chapter sounds like the worst kind of fan-fiction nonsense that would have been shot down in the first pitch meeting.Yeah. Considering how precisely Space Marine nailed 40k's settings it seems weird they'd have ideas that ridiculous. Which makes me think he was probably paraphrasing for the people who've played Space Marine but don't know 40k beyond the game. Saying Titus would have founded his own chapter would be more readily understood than explaing about how Renegade Astartes go about rallying their followers together because we already have the 'Chapter' concept explained somewhat. Or else it was the first way to express the concept that came into his head. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/#findComment-3547158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 An Ultramarines Captain going rogue and ending up founding his own Chapter sounds like the worst kind of fan-fiction nonsense that would have been shot down in the first pitch meeting. That would be almost as silly as an Ultramarine Captain being sent into the Eye of Terror on a suicide mission to atone for his heresies and simply strolling back to Maccrage and resuming command of his company. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/#findComment-3547269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord-Captain Cepinari Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Interesting sig there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/#findComment-3547277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincite Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 That would be almost as silly as an Ultramarine Captain being sent into the Eye of Terror on a suicide mission to atone for his heresies and simply strolling back to Maccrage and resuming command of his company.... ... Given that perspective, I'll eat my words. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/#findComment-3547420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Ultramarines cannot get good writers. It is their curse. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/#findComment-3559677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Sergeant Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Ultramarines cannot get good writers. It is their curse. Sadly. Maybe it's like Firefly getting canceled. I mean, the worst thing that happens to Joss Whedon creations are going past two seasons. Sounds like the "Space Marine" game series ended when it needed to. Before anything really dumb could happen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/#findComment-3559803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Yeah, I'm disappointed by the idea. I was hoping for the second game to be about the deathwatch, considering he was being "recruited" by the =I=. Would have allowed for more varied space marine characters. Perhaps even squad tactics and even multiplayer missions like Exterminatus, except more story driven. A Deathwatch game with the same attention to detail and gameplay that the Space Marine game had would have me very excited! Oh well. Btw, if they could steal the combat system used in Arkham city for the next space marine game... I would only play that game... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/#findComment-3562443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus Imperator Vult Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Gotta agree this idea sounds a little weak it just screams out that alot of the team haven't read the background material. I mean yes there are some chapters where a captain might storm off because of a debate/falling out but an Ultramarine? Yes, I know Ventris technically did (on a death oath I know) but compared to the newer fiction aren't those books widely looked down upon. I mean it's like having Templars working with witches or deathwatch working with xenos it just doesn't sit right. Also, I still don't know why they had to make him Captain of the 2nd company I'm not that well versed in Ultramarines lore but hasn't Sicrius (who is awesome) been their captin for a few hundred years? You'd have thought they could have just picked a different company. All that said it was a really good game I'm currently replaying it for the third time I think. Also, you know you're a real space marine fan when you see what happens to Sidonius and think: 'An Astartes could easily survive that.' Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/#findComment-3580643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverike_prime Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 the DeathWatch RPG has a class called "Black Shield". Basically they are marines with out a chapter, either because their chapter has been wiped out and they are one of the last surviving members or because the marine in question has been excommunicated from his chapter. In either case a marine with out a chapter was described as "being a rogue". According the background in the books, these Black Shields tend to become permement Death Watch members or in a few rare occasions are utilized by inquisitors for other duties. One of the duties it mentioned was specialized training to strike teams from various chapters. So 'going rogue' is a maddeningly vague statement with no context to explain what they mean. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283901-space-marine-creator-captain-titus-would-have-gone-rogue/#findComment-3580775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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