JeffJedi Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I think the yellow/gold shoulder pad rims explains why it was the 2nd company. That's the only colors they ever show Ultramarines (in other media) in so it's always the 2nd company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Also, we actually have no idea when the game takes place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverike_prime Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Also, we actually have no idea when the game takes place. actually that's not true. According to Sidonus' bio, his face was disfigured during a battle with tyranids meaning that the game took place in the last 250 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Ah, did not know that. In which case; canon conflict! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus Imperator Vult Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Is the game even considered cannon? I know there is a mention of a Titus being a hero of the chapter in one of the UM books but as far as I know Sicarius has been captain of the second for a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 It probably isn't. I mean, I'd like it to be, but it probably isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 It probably isn't. I mean, I'd like it to be, but it probably isn't. I was under the impression that it was, though of course I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 As was I. Doesn't Sicarius himself comment on Titus being a predecessor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 It would probably fit in with the BL motto of "if it's written, it happend'. Titus got locked up, and the story that became the game would have been re-told by guardsmen around campfires, of Titus, the liberator of Forgeworld whatever. He probably brought a whole company with him, but since all space marines look alike... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 He probably brought a whole company with him, but since all space marines look alike... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Sergeant Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Ah, did not know that. In which case; canon conflict!Is it not possible for Titus to have been sandwiched in before Sicarius, or has it been explicitly stated Sicarius took over following Invictus's death at Macragge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Acid Dog Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Ah, did not know that. In which case; canon conflict!Is it not possible for Titus to have been sandwiched in before Sicarius, or has it been explicitly stated Sicarius took over following Invictus's death at Macragge? Even if it is explicitly stated, could it not be that records of Titus were altered/removed because heresy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Is it not possible for Titus to have been sandwiched in before Sicarius, or has it been explicitly stated Sicarius took over following Invictus's death at Macragge? Well, Invictus was First Captain and was succeeded by Agemman, so... I actually can't find a thing about Sicarius' predecessor in my (admittedly cursory) search of Lexicanum and (*shudder*) 40k Wikia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 According to Lexicanum, Sicarius comments on Titus, as a predecessor, in Veil of Darkness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Oooh! Audio drama. Curious about what he says now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoros Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Really? Because supposedly, Space Marine and the Dawn of War games are both set in an alternate universe (although parts of DoW are canon, as shown by Deathwatch). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Supposedly, as in a lot of people find third party fluff as fanon. Which matters to people who wrongfully think there is a canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus Imperator Vult Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Really? Because supposedly, Space Marine and the Dawn of War games are both set in an alternate universe (although parts of DoW are canon, as shown by Deathwatch). Where was that said? I'm sure the events of Chaos Rising are cannon which is why nobodys really sure who the Blood Ravens chapter master is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoros Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Really? Because supposedly, Space Marine and the Dawn of War games are both set in an alternate universe (although parts of DoW are canon, as shown by Deathwatch). Where was that said? I'm sure the events of Chaos Rising are cannon which is why nobodys really sure who the Blood Ravens chapter master is. I'm not sure, but I've always been told that the game's developers confirmed it (for Space Marine, at least). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareddm Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Really? Because supposedly, Space Marine and the Dawn of War games are both set in an alternate universe (although parts of DoW are canon, as shown by Deathwatch). Where was that said? I'm sure the events of Chaos Rising are cannon which is why nobodys really sure who the Blood Ravens chapter master is. I'm not sure, but I've always been told that the game's developers confirmed it (for Space Marine, at least). The game developers did nothing of the sort. Here is the first and only time it was stated: http://web.archive.org/web/20120131235701/http://www.spacemarine.com/forums/topic/2017?page=3 Note that THQSledgehammer is not a Relic dev nor directly associated with Relic or GW. He was the Community Manager for THQ's forums. Personally, I don't exactly hold his word in high regard on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Putting the whole thread in context, it sounds like THQSledgehammer was only putting down a debate with a " :cuss you, it's all parallel, now stop arguing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareddm Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I completely agree. I'm just saying I'd rather have no word from the dev than having official parallel universes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 This is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Really? Because supposedly, Space Marine and the Dawn of War games are both set in an alternate universe (although parts of DoW are canon, as shown by Deathwatch). The results of these games end up becoming canon. What takes place on the PC level (personal) is just in between game. Kind of like battle reports or tourney results that end up making Canon. That being said, It could be partially canon and just a gaming slipup. 2nd Company is often enough roped into the showboy promotionals that they just went with gold without thinking about enough of the backstory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus Imperator Vult Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 That being said, It could be partially canon and just a gaming slipup. 2nd Company is often enough roped into the showboy promotionals that they just went with gold without thinking about enough of the backstory. It's a shame really because Sicarius is such a badass if the Dev's had just made him the main character the game would have been a degree more awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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