Slyen Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Hello everyone! In May of 2012 I signed up for the E Tenebrae Lux event. As is my typical fashion, I found my budget hurting and attention turning to my upcoming wedding, so I dropped out. Well I have become swayed back to the game. However I plan to do so slowly and with a plan. So I've decided to finish what I started and had to shelve then rather than pick up some fancy new kits or anything. Mainly though this starter marine army will be for learning 6th Edition and Practice for my main project which will be much more ambitious. For now I have thought to start with a combat squad and without further ado... Here are some primed models. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e348/Slyen/IMG_0565.jpg Now I had some revelations after this. The photo is focused on my test marine, however before seeing in good lighting how it looked I went ahead and sprayed the rest. As a result I am not sure how this grey primer is going to mess with the color in the end. I'm thinking in the future I might pick up the Uniform Grey rather than the Wolf Grey. If anything I can always swap over to doing Crimson Fists which wouldn't be to bad either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Army Painter makes a yellow spray which would be perfect for the imperial fists. You might want to check out the imperial fists forum if you have specific questions about painting IF or CF respectively. Best of luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyen Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 Well thanks for the heads up! I will certainly be checking both the spray out and the forums. When I was last working on these guys I was recommended to use grey primer. So last night after I posted I did up the test mini with some yellow. Overall things got messy when I tried out the read, but otherwise everything seemed to go really well. Of course photos always seem to make the problems with a model stand out. Like the spot I missed completely. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e348/Slyen/IMG_0568.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e348/Slyen/IMG_0566.jpg Still on the fence if they will use the traditional yellow with red or not. I want to stay away from yellow and black for certain seeing as I feel as if it is overdone and the seeming confusion with whether or not it is the first company or the fifth. I'm leaning towards the standard red though though that will require more paint to be bought as the only stuff that has survived has been one pot of the Mecharite. Additionally I've learned not to try using a Micron pen to line in. At least with my 0.5mm it caused nothing but problems. Still, I plan on working on the first marines in the coming days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovemberIX Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 A fellow yellow painter! While grey is perfectly usable, I suggest actually priming in white if you want a bright yellow. Outside of using the GW sold cans, I really recommend Duplicolor Sandable primer. About 6 bucks a can at most autoparts stores, it goes fairly smooth (in proper conditions, else it gets a little grainy, which I actually prefer, but that's just me), and if you don't spray like a speed addicted orangutan can be applied quite thinly. This in addition to some Lamenters glaze and Flash Gitz yellow makes for a school bus yellow chrome, I've been told mine are blinding actually. Instead of the micron, nuln oil will become your friend for filling in the dark bits. I've tried micron pens too, and they just never work out for shading, which leads me to my next cheat. I find with yellow, it's not so much about highlighting, it's about shading that makes the model. With all that, good luck and Dorn be with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyen Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 So I finished a test marine. Not one the one I had shown before but one that I had started in the past. I'm not sure how much I like him. I think it's good enough for government work but there are some serious flaws with him and I can't put my finger on some of them. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e348/Slyen/IMG_0570.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e348/Slyen/IMG_0571.jpg I know there are some touch ups that need to be done but to me it seems like my yellow is coming out flat and too thick in places. Thoughts? I'm wondering if at this point maybe I should go Crimson Fists instead for the sake of ease though it will certainly cost more due to the nature of needing paints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 The paintjob is neat, just a little thick in places. You'll need to build up the yellow by doing several thin coats. The best way to thin your paints is with a medium. GW's Lahmian Medium works fine, though I use airbrush medium. I'm not the best painter, but here's my method for Imperial Fists: Basecoat - Averland Sunset Yriel Yellow Glaze - Casandora Yellow Shade Flash Gitz Yellow "Black line" armor panels and recesses with Agrax Earthshade Glaze - Lamenters Yellow Additionally, I follow this up with a burnt umber oil wash, though it's not necessary. The oil just tones down the yellow a notch and provides a little more lifelike shading to the model. I do the Averland, Yriel, and Flash Gitz steps all with an airbrush, but Marshal2 Crusaders, (who developed the recipe), is doing the same by brush. Most likely it's going to take longer than what you're doing but the results are worthwhile. Hope that helps. Any questions, feel free to ask. EDIT: Also, if you decide to go ahead and give this a shot, I suggest doing the Agrax step after either the Yriel or Casandora stage. I only do it this way because of the airbrush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyen Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 The paintjob is neat, just a little thick in places. You'll need to build up the yellow by doing several thin coats. The best way to thin your paints is with a medium. GW's Lahmian Medium works fine, though I use airbrush medium. I'm not the best painter, but here's my method for Imperial Fists: Basecoat - Averland Sunset Yriel Yellow Glaze - Casandora Yellow Shade Flash Gitz Yellow "Black line" armor panels and recesses with Agrax Earthshade Glaze - Lamenters Yellow Additionally, I follow this up with a burnt umber oil wash, though it's not necessary. The oil just tones down the yellow a notch and provides a little more lifelike shading to the model. I do the Averland, Yriel, and Flash Gitz steps all with an airbrush, but Marshal2 Crusaders, (who developed the recipe), is doing the same by brush. Most likely it's going to take longer than what you're doing but the results are worthwhile. Hope that helps. Any questions, feel free to ask. EDIT: Also, if you decide to go ahead and give this a shot, I suggest doing the Agrax step after either the Yriel or Casandora stage. I only do it this way because of the airbrush. So I'm doing something similar. When I picked up the yellows initially it was Averland, Yriel, Flash Gitz, and Lamenters. The idea I had from there is to do just layers and then use the glaze to blend them all together. I'll look at picking up the Casandora, Agrax, and the medium though and see how that works out. I'll check out the brushed on stuff as I don't have an airbrush though with the medium do you use it instead of water or with water still to thin it out? Final note, I should really invest in an airbrush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 You could do a 1:1:1 mix of paint/medium/water, or you could do a 1:1 of just paint/medium. Thinning and mixing your paints boils down to a personal preference I'd say. It's something you'll want to play around with and do some test pieces to find what works for you. I do a simple 1:1 with paint/medium usually. But the base paint like Averland, for example, will need to be thinned more than a "layer" paint, like Yriel or Flash Gitz. It has more pigment, so it will need to be thinned properly if you want it to flow easier. I must stress that the Casandora step is proving to be vital. It really helps break the surface tension and provide a more blended look. Likewise, Agrax does a great job of shading the model. I recommend definitely picking up both if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyen Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 So taking the advice given I picked up some of the GW medium and the Casandora Yellow. My local store was out of the Agrax so I didn't get to pick that up. I've started on the first Marine proper with it's base coats as a result. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e348/Slyen/IMG_0575.jpg Of course with photos you always notice things after the fact. So I know at least I have a few more areas to cover down on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyen Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 So quick update. Just finished the yellow base coat on the rest of the combat squad. I'm thinking about spraying the rest of the full squad tomorrow and finishing up the the combat squad at the same time. Here is a picture, cause I've been told they are always good to have: http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e348/Slyen/IMG_0579.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyen Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 So did some work today, not as much as I have wanted. Got the yellow done completely on 4 of the 5 squad members. The last guy taught me the hard way that in the future I should do the yellow then everything else. Not the base coats of everything. So here is the Sergeant. I'm thinking he is the best out of them all so far. Which you know because he is like an almost character its good. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e348/Slyen/IMG_0587.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e348/Slyen/IMG_0585.jpg For the other three here are some less intensive photos... http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e348/Slyen/IMG_0584.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e348/Slyen/IMG_0582.jpg The new paints are nice. I've had issues finding a happy medium though. I keep finding myself over brushing and then having to go back over it in an effort to smooth things out because I am trying to avoid the rough and chalky coat for the main color. Seems like the Lamenter's yellow glaze is for that though in hindsight. Any recommendations? I'm thinking that in the future posts the pictures will be left open, no matter how bulky the post will be. No one else seems to do spoilers to keep it neat after all. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyen Posted January 28, 2014 Author Share Posted January 28, 2014 So post time. Been a bit and I've been painfully slow to do anything. Finished up the bulk of the first marine last night. The best one so far. Half of the squad is looking like they need to be stripped and started over. Just looking way to thick in places with the paints and as a result my perfectionism is kicking me to do it. Definitely could use a second opinion on them. I'll look at finishing them up first though and snapping a picture in the next while. In the mean time as I said, here is the best of the bunch so far. I think perhaps some fluff might help out. I'm excited enough about him. Brother Casimir, 3rd Company of the Imperial Fists, 1st Tactical Squad specialist. Designated the squad specialist after retrieving the meltagun from a fallen battle brother. He has carried it since and was blessed with ancient armor, long held in the chapter's vaults after spearheading the vanguard against a heretic stronghold on Railis IV and holding the breach created against wave and wave of renegade Astartes and Mechanicum nearly single handedly. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e348/Slyen/IMG_0590.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e348/Slyen/IMG_0591.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyen Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 Just a progress report. Almost done with the first fire team. I'm thinking all I need to finish up with are the packs. Here is a group shot, minus one. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e348/Slyen/IMG_0603.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 OOPPPS!! hey they look good!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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