depthcharge12 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Hey brothers a couple quick questions, 1.) What color trim should I paint my Dark Angels? They're going to be predominately black, so iron trim? 2.) I only have white primer at the moment, will black still work well over it? Or should I just basecoat them black? 3.) what color should the shoulder pads be and what color for the winged sword insignia? Thanks and my dark angels are on a co thread here: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285622-the-sol-gambita-race-to-terra/?do=findComment&comment=3570938 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barabbas Sogalon Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 1) A dark iron perhaps. 2) I don't use white primer, but I can't see why it shouldn't. 3) Black pads with red insignia is most pre heresy in my eyes, though I remember some Caliban born had one pad dark green. Why don't try both variants. Some checkers or heraldry like pads would look good too. Hope it helps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/#findComment-3570954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 There is allot I'm going to write, Cpt Semper well surely come over to help as well. I'm running errands but when I'm done it's coming Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/#findComment-3570956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Ragnrok Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/File:Pre-Heresy_Dark_Angel.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GARnNhjuKlc/UIx1DWow41I/AAAAAAAAX7k/PS2shWI8PlE/s1600/l.jpg credit also to varied HH books there you go. everything except emblem is black. and fyi marines that were from caliban had DA green shoulder pauldrons like so: http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110820144339/warhammer40k/images/a/ab/Chapter_master_Merir_astelan.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/#findComment-3570961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Pretty good, the green shoulder pad was on the right shoulder, left shoulder is black. Luther is known to have black about with gold gilded pauldrons and a fur cloak. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/#findComment-3570978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 To try to get Crazystobz to be able to see some of the photos I have taken some more and uploaded them using photbucket this time. Hopefully it works better.... Squad Iahmel are veteran members of the 4th Company during the phase of Imperial history which was to become known as the Horus Heresy. Due to supplies being limited many members of the squad wore various marks of armour and carried a selection of different weapon types but could be relied upon to be deadly to their enemies no matter what. As veterans they can be seen wearing simple white robes with minimal awards or trophies - the recognition of their fellow Battle Brothers is reward enough. http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/jonbrooks_photo/P4210003_zpscf55a50d.jpg Brother Sgt Iahmel is a veteran of many wars and skirmishes. He proudly leads from the front with the cry of "For the Lion" and his sword, Wrath of Caliban, spreading fear into his enemies. http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/jonbrooks_photo/P4210001_zps14d672aa.jpg Brother Perdiccas is Sgt Iahmel's friend and strong right hand, always ready to step in to combat with chainsword singing and boltgun blazing. http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/jonbrooks_photo/P4210007_zps65f12ea7.jpg Brother Turmiel is the squads tacturn flamer bearer though none can doubt his artistry when fire is needed to cleanse enemy positions. http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/jonbrooks_photo/P4210005_zps513f7495.jpg Brother Corat is the most effective missile launcher operator in 4th Company. His ability to hit targets at ranges where others would fail gains his squad special honour amongst it's peers. http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/jonbrooks_photo/P4210011_zps23ef3b2f.jpg Brother Abigor is a typical Dark Angel, slow to anger but quick to strike. He has had many honours over his long life but prefers to meditate alone. http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/jonbrooks_photo/P4210010_zpsea30b9e3.jpg Brother Boreal is the newest member of Squad Iahmel after showing great valour at the battle of Kadri prime. http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/jonbrooks_photo/P4210009_zps24bfe8a3.jpg Brother Vicconius lost his right arm in a fight against an Orc warboss. Sufficed to say the orc lost it's head in return. http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/jonbrooks_photo/P4210006_zps218260c5.jpg With decades of conflicts, Brother Peneume's accuracy with a boltgun has become extraordinary even for a veteran of the 1st Legion. http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/jonbrooks_photo/P4210004_zps196f1e3c.jpg Brother Remliel was a key member during the defence of the hive city of Furtis-Secundus and in rememberence of the brothers he lost, he still wears the same MKIII helmet from that battle. http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/jonbrooks_photo/P4210002_zpsa230832d.jpg Brother Salilus is a long standing member of Squad Iahmel. Stern but approachable, his council is much sought after by junior members of the 4th Company. These are Elmo's dark angels from the DA forum check them out for inspiration Some of the best I've seen Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/#findComment-3570982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 Yeah I'll try both types :) I think I'll do some of the vets with their own heraldry, I'll also have some of the caliban born with green pads but have the white insignia. For some reason I keep thinking that the Lion consigned ALL the Terran vets to caliban to train the new guys. Is this not true? Was there still a significant representation by the Terrans or mixed units? I'm thinking to have my whole command squad as Terrans, but my XVth Cataphracts (I guess they would be part of the Ravenwing Order as they are heavy dismounted cavalry) How should I paint my cataphractii terminators? They obviously haven't colored them bone white since that is in the future, but black with what color helmets and shoulder pads? Thanks Spectemur Agendo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/#findComment-3570983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I now declare my November vow of 1 Knights of Caliban HH 1st Tactical Squad complete http://image.bolterandchainsword.com//public/style_emoticons/#EMO_DIR#/biggrin.gif Here are the new MKIV models http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/jonbrooks_photo/PB230010.jpg http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/jonbrooks_photo/PB230012.jpg http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/jonbrooks_photo/PB230015.jpg http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/jonbrooks_photo/PB230016.jpg http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/jonbrooks_photo/PB230017.jpg http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/jonbrooks_photo/PB230018.jpg http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/jonbrooks_photo/PB230019.jpg http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/jonbrooks_photo/PB230020.jpg http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/jonbrooks_photo/PB230021.jpg http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/jonbrooks_photo/PB230022.jpg And I did a bit extra on the Melta gun http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/jonbrooks_photo/PB230026.jpg http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/jonbrooks_photo/PB230027.jpg And here they are all together http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/jonbrooks_photo/PB230028.jpg Decembers vow will only be a tiny one - too many painting commitments http://image.bolterandchainsword.com//public/style_emoticons/#EMO_DIR#/wacko.gif Look at the heraldry brother Use heraldry Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/#findComment-3570988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 If you YouTube Worthy Painting's (Forge world dark angels) there are really good conversions there that my own army is borrowing. Check out the Dark Fortress as well for resources and decal sheets Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/#findComment-3570990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 Thanks jasp :) Does he have a paint scheme or tutorial? I really like how he did those. And what do you guys (the dark angel purists too, you know who you are :P) feel about dark angels with MKIV armor? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/#findComment-3570993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Just give him a PM I'm sure he will share plus those knights be damn sexy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/#findComment-3570997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I think MKIV is completely kosher. The 1st Legion was entrusted with very rare armor and tech. Horus and The Lion were close and I'm sure that the Dark Angels received many suits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/#findComment-3571012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 FWs official scheme has DAs with a red Legion symbol on a black shoulder pad, BL books state The Lion gave Calibanite legionnaires the right to bear dark green beneath the Legion symbol to represent their homeworlds forrests. For me personally, I've been doing white Legion symbols as red symbol on green pads looks stupid to me. I've been doing a mixed company of Terran and Calibanites, having Terrans in plain black and iron plate, with Calibanites getting robes/tabards and red as a spot colour. I'm holding out for FW DA pads , and as such haven't attached any yet but plan on heraldry for Terrans and green inserts for Calibanite DAs. As for mkIV, if you like it, go for it. I prefer the Legion mkIV armour as the studs make it a little more brutal looking. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/#findComment-3571020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 I think MKIV is completely kosher. The 1st Legion was entrusted with very rare armor and tech. Horus and The Lion were close and I'm sure that the Dark Angels received many suits. Solid. Where was it said that they were trusted with rare armor and tech? Was it UE? I haven't read it yet... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/#findComment-3571021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 You're safer with the legion MkIV as stated above as studs are very iconic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/#findComment-3571025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 I'm torn between having all kosher squads of one mark, but I also like mixed squads (however it does feel off sometimes) This is what I've been up to lately: http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/treacyjohn2/image_zpse4d2d753.jpg http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/treacyjohn2/image_zps3f7240ca.jpg http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/treacyjohn2/image_zpsbb6b7853.jpg http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/treacyjohn2/image_zpsa74a6900.jpg http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/treacyjohn2/image_zps599fc151.jpg I don't know if I should try and paint over my previous world eaters and flesh tearers but it would feel like a waste to have them and not use them. Plus I don't know how I could transition to allow dark angels to have chainaxes as they seem to brutal and clumsy to wielded by the sons of the lion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/#findComment-3571038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Use them as loyalists so paint them like warhounds ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/#findComment-3571049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akylas Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I've found black covers very well over white primer. Black primer would save you a lot of time with 30k Dark Angels but white primer won't give you any problems (well, maybe in reaching every nook and cranny as it stands out so much but if you use white primer already you're like used to that one. :p ). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/#findComment-3571064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Mixed armor marks in a squad is very fluffy :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/#findComment-3571068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 There was a mix of Calibanite legionaires and Terran on Caliban Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/#findComment-3571074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 So I basecoated the first batch chaos black, where to from here? http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/treacyjohn2/95ec43706ae9e3340f8817e08cc01053_zps0880b483.jpg I don't understand how to and what are highlights. Do I need them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/#findComment-3571087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I'd throw a wash of badab black on them to make the black richer. Then block out the main colors, I use boltgun metal on the shoulder pad rims, helmet face guards and helmet parts. From there I would either edge highlight with charadon granite and then a very extreme highlight of codex grey Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/#findComment-3571208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Ragnrok Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Pretty good, the green shoulder pad was on the right shoulder, left shoulder is black. Luther is known to have black about with gold gilded pauldrons and a fur cloak. yes i think gold was mostly reserved for vets and a few sgts and obv officers Yeah I'll try both types I think I'll do some of the vets with their own heraldry, I'll also have some of the caliban born with green pads but have the white insignia. For some reason I keep thinking that the Lion consigned ALL the Terran vets to caliban to train the new guys. Is this not true? Was there still a significant representation by the Terrans or mixed units? I'm thinking to have my whole command squad as Terrans, but my XVth Cataphracts (I guess they would be part of the Ravenwing Order as they are heavy dismounted cavalry) How should I paint my cataphractii terminators? They obviously haven't colored them bone white since that is in the future, but black with what color helmets and shoulder pads? Thanks Spectemur Agendo to answer your question - some of the marines sent back to Caliban were natives such as Zaharel and Luther for example. i think the terms were mostly black with some cream and gold Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/#findComment-3571258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 Here's where I'm at now: http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/treacyjohn2/7d3d7159814e53ade1a925d14eaa60ea_zpsb686b2e0.jpg http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/treacyjohn2/10e2978caa0ebe16a8e3c11bf9e7659d_zps48429aee.jpg http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/treacyjohn2/2a9cb153ac33793afe16699e0e7cc53f_zps4c3c5823.jpg http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/treacyjohn2/2c226e0b23f53881618bb01879cc426c_zps59ff56ff.jpg http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/treacyjohn2/4cdb5701210e543c5c620e853261bb0a_zpsb6a6af08.jpg What color eyes should I do? Red? And what proportion should I do Terrans and Calibinites? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/#findComment-3571949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 That's up to you, the way I do eyes now is white base coat, then watered down blue or red and it does a pretty cool effect. Dark Angels visors are described as rose colored. To make them more detailed add in colored knee pads. Reference the Dark angels codex for the reserve company heraldry. My own force are based on those sent back to the rock with additions to make it legionaires actively participating in the crusade and battling heretics. Checkers, green and white along with knightly heralded is good. Robes with borders look good as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285704-painting-heresy-dark-angels-suggestions/#findComment-3572081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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