The Rose Princes Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 So saw this at a tournament this weekend... there was a CSM player using Cypher as his second HQ got set up against a DIY Marine player using Cypher as a third HQ. Aside from the fluff aspect, if one Cypher loses his last wound while within D6" of the other Cypher, does Cypher count as a Dark Angels model to capture Cypher and gain the bonus 3 victory points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Well, for game purposes, a Dark Angel is a unit from the Dark Angels codex, right? So, RAW, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rose Princes Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 With that line of thought, Tyrannic War Vets don't count as Space Marines and Deathleaper Assassin Brood don't count as Tyranids. Weird, but acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoJack Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Since Cypher isn't a unit in C:DA nor are DA even able to field him, I would say he is most certainly not a Dark Angel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 With that line of thought, Tyrannic War Vets don't count as Space Marines and Deathleaper Assassin Brood don't count as Tyranids. Weird, but acceptable. In a formation cypher is a chaos space marine. When taken as part of an army cypher counts as a unit from that codex. So if he was taken as part of a dark angels force (not aformation, which counts as a CSM ally) THEN he would count as a dark angels unit. Cooincidentally DA happens to be the only human army that can't take cypher ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomanyprojects Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I'd say as all of the fluff goes against it then no. Cypher is the most hated fallen, so it seems rather unlikely that he would count as a DA. BUT, it does actually seem in character for him to defeat another fallen that is posing as him and then leave a trail so that the unforgiving could find the imitator :) taunt or assist? No one knows :) In all seriousness, it does seem like the sort of thing that is best agreed before the game. Maybe a roll off 1-3 no, 4-6 yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 And the funny thing is that OP's question is in the wrong place since we can't field him thus having the least rules knowledge about the subject. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopounder Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Cypher can't count as a Dark Angel. If he did, then ANY time he is removed, he's within 6" of a Dark Angel... lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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