Wade Garrett Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 This is purely personal taste, but I despise Annendale's additions to the lore, both in the Space Marine Battles book Death of Antagonis (The Black Dragons are the new Night Lords, an ATHEIST Sister of Battle who I am convinced is secretly Khornate, and various warblings about faith that are both nonsensical and mildly offensive if you have religious leanings) and his short story in Mark of Calth anthology (The worship of the God Emperor isn't one of the few things protecting mankind from the Ruinous Powers, rather, it was Chaos' s plan all along. OH, IF ONLY WE WERE ATHEISTS AS THE EMPEROR ORIGINALLY PLANNED! WEEP FOR ALL THE POOR LOST ATHEISM!) Again, a lot of my dislike for him is tied to my preferred way of viewing the 40k setting and my own real life views, others probably think his writing is just spiffy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3592922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 It's called a French Advance or taktikul withdrawal mordenthex ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3592931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uprising Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 This is purely personal taste, but I despise Annendale's additions to the lore, both in the Space Marine Battles book Death of Antagonis (The Black Dragons are the new Night Lords, an ATHEIST Sister of Battle who I am convinced is secretly Khornate, and various warblings about faith that are both nonsensical and mildly offensive if you have religious leanings) and his short story in Mark of Calth anthology (The worship of the God Emperor isn't one of the few things protecting mankind from the Ruinous Powers, rather, it was Chaos' s plan all along. OH, IF ONLY WE WERE ATHEISTS AS THE EMPEROR ORIGINALLY PLANNED! WEEP FOR ALL THE POOR LOST ATHEISM!) Again, a lot of my dislike for him is tied to my preferred way of viewing the 40k setting and my own real life views, others probably think his writing is just spiffy. I understand your dislike of this novel(You stated this several time in the past few months), and everyone one is intitled to their opinion, but I actually really enjoyed the novel, and his writing style. Am I the only one hoping that sister of battle get her own series? I really can not wait for this book, and it has two things that really interest me; The ties in-between 30k and 40k, and xeno dinosaur. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3592932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I think I lean more in Wade's camp as far as Annandale goes. Haven't read all of his stuff, so there might be some good I am missing. But while not a bad writer, his work ultimately left me rather unsatisfied. His work is rather forgettable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3592944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nephilim Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I think they're running out of ideas. Really? Space Marines vs dinosaurs? /facepalm Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3592955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 That is kind of like saying Space Marines fighting Eldar is an example of running out of ideas. Actually, it really is, considering that it is more often Space Marines fighting dinosaurs AND Eldar than just dinosaurs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3592979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vile Siren Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Is this book going to feature those loyalists from Angel Exterminatus? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3592982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 For what its worth though, un underlying theme is that religion is a cause of mankinds downfall... but it is also now one of the few things protecting them. I like that personally, and my real world views have no place in the science fantasy game i like to read about :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3592983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshal seanisi Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 MKVI Helmet variant on the Iron Hand Space Marine? Help me out here, I thought the first batch of MKVI armor was given to the Raven Guard by the Imperial Fists after they grabbed it and made a dash from Mars?. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3592987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 It's called a French Advance or taktikul withdrawal mordenthex Well, I have more than one thousand and five hundred years of military history that want to say something to you... Is this book going to feature those loyalists from Angel Exterminatus? I guess. At least it seems to me so far. It might be a nice opportunity to fix the Sharrowkyn issue. An opportunity that involves jaws, claws, and screaming in horror. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3592989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 MKVI Helmet variant on the Iron Hand Space Marine? Help me out here, I thought the first batch of MKVI armor was given to the Raven Guard by the Imperial Fists after they grabbed it and made a dash from Mars?. R-r-r-r-retcon!!! It's called a French Advance or taktikul withdrawal mordenthex ;) Well, I have more than one thousand and five hundred years of military history that want to say something to you... :p I'm sorry. I can't hear you when your back is toward me :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3592990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 It's called a French Advance or taktikul withdrawal mordenthex Well, I have more than one thousand and five hundred years of military history that want to say something to you... :p All I hear is "RETREAT!" I am of course definitely kidding. Has anyone who read Pandorax know of what it says about its significance during the Heresy? Something to give us an idea what we are in for, beyond Space Marines fighting palaeolithic beasts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3592995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 @cormac Isn't there something to do with a certain dark angel who was one of the first GK masters? I believe he got stuck in stasis and was woken up by your friendly neighborhood Abaddon. But don't quote me on it. Wasn't there something in Angel Exterminatus about another ship following the Sisypheum but disappeared when they accidentally discharged the reactor? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3592999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 You guys... Has anyone who read Pandorax know of what it says about its significanceduring the Heresy? Something to give us an idea what we are in for,beyond Space Marines fighting palaeolithic beasts? Havn't read it, but read quite a lot about it while desperatly trying to find a scan of the apocalypse supplement. It might be about the Damnation Cache, some sort of box or device that holds a Warp rift or something. Some time after the Heresy, Epitemeus, a founding member of the Grey Knights who is also terrible when it comes to recalling events from the past and their chronological order (don't laugh, that's an interesting power to have), was left there to watch over the Cache. Then Abaddon backhanded him and gave him to Fulgrim, so he could summon an avatar of Slaanesh for the 13th Black Crusade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3593001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 MKVI Helmet variant on the Iron Hand Space Marine? Help me out here, I thought the first batch of MKVI armor was given to the Raven Guard by the Imperial Fists after they grabbed it and made a dash from Mars?. R-r-r-r-retcon!!! > It's called a French Advance or taktikul withdrawal mordenthex Well, I have more than one thousand and five hundred years of military history that want to say something to you... I'm sorry. I can't hear you when your back is toward me He isn't running away, he just...remembered some binary he forgot to finish back on the ship... On the MK VI, the Iron Hands & the Mechanicum are lovers really good friends, and there are a load of different forge worlds, so maybe they'd be in line for prototypes? Or he took one / was given one by a dead / dying Raven Guard? Then again, if its a retcon, it could be along the lines of Cataphractii, or the Sicarian, as in: Ferrus made it, although its probably not quite Irony enough for the Gorgon, as say, Iron Armour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3593009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 For what its worth though, un underlying theme is that religion is a cause of mankinds downfall... No, I'm pretty sure the galaxy spanning war prosecuted by the atheist transhumans is the reason that nobody in M41 can have nice things. Well, that or the galaxy spanning orgy carried out by the polytheist elves. :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3593025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heru Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 MKVI Helmet variant on the Iron Hand Space Marine? Help me out here, I thought the first batch of MKVI armor was given to the Raven Guard by the Imperial Fists after they grabbed it and made a dash from Mars?.R-r-r-r-retcon!!! > It's called a French Advance or taktikul withdrawal mordenthex Well, I have more than one thousand and five hundred years of military history that want to say something to you... I'm sorry. I can't hear you when your back is toward me He isn't running away, he just...remembered some binary he forgot to finish back on the ship... Correction, he is chasing the cowardly Raven Guard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3593028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vazzy Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Dinosaurs. The 18 year old me is now contemplating buying some T-rexs for my guys to fight... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3593029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 On the note of the "Mk VI" helmet, notice that the beak isn't really that pointed. My guess would be that it is actually a different pattern altogether that was used as a basis for the Mk VI design. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3593097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 On the note of the "Mk VI" helmet, notice that the beak isn't really that pointed. My guess would be that it is actually a different pattern altogether that was used as a basis for the Mk VI design. It looks like a beak :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3593110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 On the note of the "Mk VI" helmet, notice that the beak isn't really that pointed. My guess would be that it is actually a different pattern altogether that was used as a basis for the Mk VI design. It looks like a beak :)looks flat to me. Not to mention the aforementioned o.O look. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3593115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Fixed the link. Not sure why it didn't work. Im seeing raven guard, sallies and... could the running marine perhabs be an Iron Warrior? It looks like industrial stripes on his gauntlet.No, he's an Iron Hand. http://www.blacklibrary.com/Images/BL/blog/2014/Feb/tactical-withdrawal.jpg Okay, but there definetly a sallie and a raven guard. Just look at the pauldrons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3593118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 On the note of the "Mk VI" helmet, notice that the beak isn't really that pointed. My guess would be that it is actually a different pattern altogether that was used as a basis for the Mk VI design. It looks like a beak looks flat to me. Not to mention the aforementioned o.O look. Sorry, thought we were talking about the RG helm on the left here. http://www.blacklibrary.com/Images/BL/blog/2014/Feb/Damn_Pyth_A5_HB_dustjacket_FINAL_001.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3593129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 On the note of the "Mk VI" helmet, notice that the beak isn't really that pointed. My guess would be that it is actually a different pattern altogether that was used as a basis for the Mk VI design. It looks like a beak :)looks flat to me. Not to mention the aforementioned o.O look. The o.O look is due to an augmetic, Iron Hands being Iron Hands and all, not actually part of the helm. The same augmetic in B&C's painter w/ wargear, interestingly enough. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3593147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Ah. My phone is making the resolution blurry so it was hard to see specifics. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286765-damnation-of-pythos/page/2/#findComment-3593150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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