Knight of the Raven Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I hope the Alpha Legion will be closer to the ultimate masters of coordinated assault than to 'TF2 Spy LOL'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3627989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareddm Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Now we know who sired the storm wardens ;) In that case, I better tell the Viper Legion they should be venerating Alpharius instead of Dorn :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3627999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Â Now we know who sired the storm wardens ;) In that case, I better tell the Viper Legion they should be venerating Alpharius instead of Dorn :P the look on their faces would be priceless! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3628004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I hope the Alpha Legion will be closer to the ultimate masters of coordinated assault than to 'TF2 Spy LOL'. So do I... Â Fingers crossed, eh? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3628013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Raven Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Even my toes are crossed. Which makes walking awkward incidentally. Â I also hope they won't get something that means the opponent is playing with less points than what they actually paid for, i.e. Dante's mask. "Oh, you pay 100 points for a WS6 3W 3A lord? LOLNOPE! Substract one from all of these." Or the necrons' scarabs. "That's a nice all-sides 14 AV you have here. Paid 250 points to it you say? It would be such a shame if it was reduced to 10 everywhere in one close combat phase." Â Call me old school, but I despise these. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3628039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Â Battle of Paramar, isn't the loyalists supposed to win that? Â Yup. Â Iirc it was a surprising battle won by the loyalists. 2 legions of traitor titans and I think a detachment of astartes assaulted what they thought to be an unguarded space port, but were pretty handily beaten back by some loyalist titans. Â Â One of the traitor legions is the coolest IMHO: the "Tiger Eyes" This is the one the Loyalist Iron Warriors are shown to be in, right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3628074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014  Battle of Paramar, isn't the loyalists supposed to win that?  Yup.  Iirc it was a surprising battle won by the loyalists. 2 legions of traitor titans and I think a detachment of astartes assaulted what they thought to be an unguarded space port, but were pretty handily beaten back by some loyalist titans.   One of the traitor legions is the coolest IMHO: the "Tiger Eyes"  Well, at least nobody can claim that the Alpha Legion is a "Mary Sue" legion anymore, all they do nowadays is keep loosing all their battles... :(  http://www.blacklibrary.com/Images/BL/blog/2014/Mar/full.jpg  R.I.P brothers, you served us well... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3628084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 More realistically would be the similarity between the IF scheme presented and the Iron Warriors. I'd imagine they will explain and expand the history of the rivalry between the two legions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3628115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014    Battle of Paramar, isn't the loyalists supposed to win that?  Yup. Iirc it was a surprising battle won by the loyalists. 2 legions of traitor titans and I think a detachment of astartes assaulted what they thought to be an unguarded space port, but were pretty handily beaten back by some loyalist titans. One of the traitor legions is the coolest IMHO: the "Tiger Eyes"  Well, at least nobody can claim that the Alpha Legion is a "Mary Sue" legion anymore, all they do nowadays is keep loosing all their battles... :(  http://www.blacklibrary.com/Images/BL/blog/2014/Mar/full.jpg  R.I.P brothers, you served us well... Excessus, where is that pic from?   And yeah I don't think I have a problem with the win/lose thing with them, I just have problems when they are consistently used as plot fillers and deus ex machina's.   I liked what Abnett did with them, but I still want to see them as a legion that hits hard right at the perfect moment and are there exactly at the right time.       Battle of Paramar, isn't the loyalists supposed to win that?  Yup. Iirc it was a surprising battle won by the loyalists. 2 legions of traitor titans and I think a detachment of astartes assaulted what they thought to be an unguarded space port, but were pretty handily beaten back by some loyalist titans. One of the traitor legions is the coolest IMHO: the "Tiger Eyes" This is the one the Loyalist Iron Warriors are shown to be in, right?  As for that, I don't know. I don't believe that a legion was listed originally, but it seems that during the preview that the AL will be there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3628230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 That is the same scheme as the loyalist marines behind the emperor in the Adrian Smith Emperor vs Horus painting. Â @Marshal: That's a tad big assumption, mate. They're both grey, but the ones in the painting have no yellow, to my memory, and they sport a completely different mark of armour, more in line with "Black Ops Custodes" than run-of-the-mill Astartes. Â I have to agree with Greyall on this one, and as it turns out, I have this image saved on my computer as it was previously a background. Here's a detail shot: Â http://i.imgur.com/TDGLCAk.png?1 Â It makes me wonder if the new Death Guard helms were inspired by this image at all? Â http://i.imgur.com/EJQQKIt.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3628251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014     Battle of Paramar, isn't the loyalists supposed to win that? Yup. Iirc it was a surprising battle won by the loyalists. 2 legions of traitor titans and I think a detachment of astartes assaulted what they thought to be an unguarded space port, but were pretty handily beaten back by some loyalist titans. One of the traitor legions is the coolest IMHO: the "Tiger Eyes"  Well, at least nobody can claim that the Alpha Legion is a "Mary Sue" legion anymore, all they do nowadays is keep loosing all their battles... :(  http://www.blacklibrary.com/Images/BL/blog/2014/Mar/full.jpg  R.I.P brothers, you served us well... Excessus, where is that pic from? It's from today's Black Library blog, on the Facebook post someone claimed they had seen the full piece at an event and it's a story about Bjorn...  http://www.blacklibrary.com/new-at-bl/Whodunit.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3628279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Full picture (credit to battlebunnies): https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ocl6-3OoiQc/UxIIA-3eN_I/AAAAAAAACX0/mfBCTAayJ84/s640/blogger-image--1909797961.jpgDamn wolves.As to the Imperial Fist colours, or lack thereof in this case, I'm of the mind that the bare ceramite colours a la Malcador's boys is a Terran theme of sorts (note the 'terra gloria' inscription on the IF).  Edit: Re Sigma, wouldn’t be too far a fetch for it to signify the Sigillite. The XX were one of the three ‘special’ legions created by Big E  and would their nature not put them under the Sigillite’s jurisdiction of sorts? A pet legion, if anything, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3628340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Full picture (credit to battlebunnies): https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ocl6-3OoiQc/UxIIA-3eN_I/AAAAAAAACX0/mfBCTAayJ84/s640/blogger-image--1909797961.jpg Damn wolves. As to the Imperial Fist colours, or lack thereof in this case, I'm of the mind that the bare ceramite colours a la Malcador's boys is a Terran theme of sorts (note the 'terra gloria' inscription on the IF). Wow. Â Â He looks like a badass Jesus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3628390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Wolves 1 Alpha Legion Well you get the picture. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3628399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I'll throw in another vote that the alternate IF scheme is Unification, pre-Dorn livery. Â If this happens to be a Marine from the Great Crusade-era, then perhaps the Fists keep it around for ceremonial purposes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3628433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Dorn was the seventh Primarch found, and this scheme could have been carried into the Great Crusade for some years prior to him taking control of the Legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3628457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 +Redacted+ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3628470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share Posted March 21, 2014 Sooooo, how bout dem Alpha Legion? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3628533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Sooooo, how bout dem Alpha Legion? Well, you make my heart flutter, how bout that? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3628539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Full picture (credit to battlebunnies): https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ocl6-3OoiQc/UxIIA-3eN_I/AAAAAAAACX0/mfBCTAayJ84/s640/blogger-image--1909797961.jpg Damn wolves. As to the Imperial Fist colours, or lack thereof in this case, I'm of the mind that the bare ceramite colours a la Malcador's boys is a Terran theme of sorts (note the 'terra gloria' inscription on the IF). Edit: Re Sigma, wouldn’t be too far a fetch for it to signify the Sigillite. The XX were one of the three ‘special’ legions created by Big E and would their nature not put them under the Sigillite’s jurisdiction of sorts? A pet legion, if anything, Which are the other "special" legions? Haven't heard that before The Alphas nature would put them under the Sigillite's jurisdiction if they were loyal during the Heresy, but I'm not sure he really did much of that stuff before. He seems more like a Prime Minister, running the government for the head-of-state aka the Big E. The only thing I can remember him doing pre-Heresy is representing the Emperor in various roles, setting up the Observatory organisation that Kasper Hawser worked for and found the Rememberancer order. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3628542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 The other was the Space Wolves aaaaaand . . . Hell. It wad one of the Legions already released. Night Lords? War Hounds? Luna Wolves? Â Wait, Salamanders! Maybe? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3628558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share Posted March 21, 2014 Twas the sallies Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3628565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelPaladin Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 What was the Salamanders reason for being kept aside? The Wolves and Alpha Legion are fairly easy to guess, but I can't figure out why the Salamanders would have been. Book 2 says that when they were finally unleashed they were ferocious; very different than the humanitarians we know and love. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3628571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I actually think that Vulkan remodeled the Legion into something other than what the Emperor wanted. Though still a good, effective Legion, it seemed as if the Emperor wanted them to be the nutcracker Legion, the force that could break any and all foes, no matter the might of such a foe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3628578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 The Salamanders are hinted at inheriting Vulkans endurance and pain tolerance. I'd imagine that the Space Wolves, Salamanders, and Alpha Legion were kept aside so the Emperor could see how far he could mess with the human genome in the Astartes project. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288311-book-3-extermination-preview-stills-clean-armour-pics-up/page/6/#findComment-3628581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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