Delvarus Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 how do you picture him? ive read betrayer so know what anyone else does who has read that book, but how would you model him? i see him in mark 3 armour with a fancy helmet with plume. obviously a meteor hammer, but would he have a boarding shield? he is in charge of the triarii boarding marines so i kinda like the idea of him being equipped with one. he would definately need a helmet as the book describes him liking the discomfort of his hair inside his helmet but would you model him wearing the hemet or holding it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisdudeness Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I seem to remember he was always in Terminator Armor in the books. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/#findComment-3630464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delvarus Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 well ive only read betrayer in regards to books that feature him and it never describes what armour he was wearing only that he has a cape and a plume on a grim faced helm. two bronze legion symbols one one each pauldron. could you elaborate more hisdudeness? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/#findComment-3630480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relict Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I've always pictured him in mark IV power armor with a transverse helmet crest... His weapon would obviously be the meteor hammer, with perhaps a plasma pistol for backup (purely my conjecture on this one). Oh, and he is mentioned to have World Eater iconography in bronze on one or both shoulders. If I were to model him with his helmet off, I would paint him dark of skin (obviously not Salamander dark) and use green stuff to make some dreadlocks. I recall ADB describing him as being darker than the average World Eater, hailing from a jungle world originally. So yeah, angry dreadlocked black man with problems obey authority figures. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/#findComment-3630482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delvarus Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 yeah relict i tend to agree with you but think he will def have his helmet on. i want him running with meteor hammer swinging . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/#findComment-3630484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaCroix Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 i was thinking of basing delvarus off the Khârn model only really need to do the arms and meteor hammer or keeps the arms and just run some chain Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/#findComment-3630548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delvarus Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 thats another cool idea lacroix. i take it you dont intend on running Khârn then? or will you change the helmet too to make them different? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/#findComment-3630560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaCroix Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 i was going to buy two Khârn models lol Jaspcat sent me a pic of the Khârn model with a larger helmet plume so that may work well for delvarus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/#findComment-3630572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relict Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 That is a good idea... Until Khârn comes to KILLMAIMBURN for defiling his model... :P Khârn's helmet has a Sarum-pattern rebreather. This is fairly common among the World Eaters - both Kargos and Esca (the librarian) are mentioned to wear the same helmet. It would look fine for Delvarus. I would sand off the silly little crest and add a transverse one from the Mark IV command upgrade set. Good luck! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/#findComment-3630573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaCroix Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 i dont mind the little crest for Khârn and the other captains that didnt think much of fancy armour Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/#findComment-3630593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relict Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Also, blood splatter. A good World Eater has to have his armor covered with a layer of chunky salsa. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/#findComment-3630617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisdudeness Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Maybe it was just me inserting what I believe a commander of a boarding unit would wear. That's a sign of a good writer, when one seamlessly inserts ones own vision to the story. Here is why. First he is a commander of a high attrition tactic, he needs to be survivable to command. A boarding shield just doesn't provide as much protection as TDA. Gamewise, Artificer armor and a boarding shield would work....but not fluffwise. Second, TDA gives the option to teleport to the battlefield right where his experience and unit weight is needed. Push in a wave of assault rams and droppods, then the unit that get closest to the objective sends in teleport location. Snoochie boochies, you have a force multiplier unit in their face eating the enemies cookies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/#findComment-3630705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Terminator armor may offer a lot of protection, but it's also bulky and cumbersome as all get out. Delvarus is a weapon master whose entire fighting style is based around speed and finesse, not clanking around blocking incoming strikes with his chest. He wouldn't want the stuff any more than Lucius or Sharrowkyn. As far as him needing TDA to survive, if Khârn, Sigismund, Pollux, Sevatar, etc can all get by without it I don't see why it would be a must have for Del. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/#findComment-3630729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisdudeness Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I believe that is common misconception of terminator armor based on the idea that TDA can not sweep being translated to cumbersome. IF this were true you would not have characters like the Red Scorpions Cmdr Cullin. Or pretty much any Grey Knight in TDA. I'm not saying he NEEDS it to survive, but I view TDA as having many more tactical options. That said, a good commander knows when to apply the correct tool at the correct time. So it is completely reasonable for him to be modeled to fit the fluff behind your list. I could see him TDA in an assault ram just as easy as with a boarding shield from a droppod or jumppack in the void. I have a pre-Khârn official release scratch build with jumppack that I use for Khârn when I want to run a full jump list. Edit: A perfect model for him in PA would be that Gameday boarding marine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/#findComment-3630751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I imagine him using standard weaponry, I mean wasn't he Sigismund's partner in the pits? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/#findComment-3630882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Considering the Legion's rather unique practice of acquiring a terminator suit, and their over-all outlook on those who do, I assume that he does not have one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/#findComment-3630884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 It does mention him and his company having hardened boarding armour though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/#findComment-3630900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 A common misconception? Every single time a Terminator appears in the fluff he's less manuverable, but insanely more durable and stronger than his Battle Brothers in standard plate, with the only exception being Abaddon, where every mention of his deftness is TDA is underscored by noting how exceptional it is. Granted, anyone can equip their models any way that strikes their fancy. You want a Sigismund on a Jetbike so the Black Knight can joust? More power to you. But the fact remains that in all his appearances so far, Delvarus has neither worn Terminator plate nor shown any inclination to do so. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/#findComment-3630922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisdudeness Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 But that's the problem...I can't find any place that actually describes what he is wearing. Maybe someone that has read the books recently can get some pages to us. And no, not every single time in fluff. More often then not if it is a named character they are prancing around whirling dervishes in their TDA. Every GK fluff I've read they seem to be able to do it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/#findComment-3630935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 The closest thing to a description we have of Delvarus on page 193 when Lotarra sees the Triarii coming onto the embarkation deck, she was able to single him out because his crested helm stood above his brethren and he had bronze versions of the XII Legion symbole on his shoulder pads. Oh, and on the next page he is said to wear a cape. Now, since a crest and different color shoulder pads marks him out from the Triarii, that tells me Delvarus wears the same thing the rest of the Triarii do. Just one or two paragraphs down page 193, the Triarii are said to have bolters. To my knowledge, Terminators have twin-linked bolters, not standard bolters. But that's just speculation based on a lack of specification. But shoulderpads, bolters and capes would point me to PA, not TDA. In my humble and honest opinion. But when push comes to shove, personal preference will win the day. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/#findComment-3630968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisdudeness Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Yea, that's pretty much what I found also. To play devils advocate: Bolter can be a generic term. TDA has shoulder pads also. There are a number of captains that wear TDA and wear capes. The only good point is the color of the pads point. But this could also be what the current mission called for...... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/#findComment-3630990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Yea, that's pretty much what I found also. To play devils advocate: Bolter can be a generic term. TDA has shoulder pads also. There are a number of captains that wear TDA and wear capes. The only good point is the color of the pads point. But this could also be what the current mission called for...... No, I feel the crested helm discounts against Terminator armor as well. To my knowledge, the only Terminator models with crests above the helmet are Zhufor and the Minotaur. But neither have the crests on the helm, only on the part of the armor that curves above it. Here, the helm is specifically noted to be crested. So unless Delvarus is a wearing a Terminator pattern we have not seen yet that does not have that lip where the back armor curves above the helmet, I feel that he could not have been wearing Terminator armor. IMHO. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/#findComment-3631107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I personally believe he's a boarding marine, similar to the unique FW one apart from not as flashy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/#findComment-3631149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delvarus Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share Posted March 24, 2014 some very good views from everyone and of course it is all down to your imagination. i will be working on "my" delvarus tonight so keep your eyes on this thread in the next few days. gonna go with the meteor hammer and boarding shield in artificer armour with helmet plume and cape. thanks all for your input. it was all very helpful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/#findComment-3631445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delvarus Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share Posted March 24, 2014 well here he is! still work in progress and needs a backpack. what do you all think? decided i wanted him walking with a arrogant swagger. when painted i imagine the meteor hammer caked in blood and leaving a trail of gore on the rocks behind him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288485-what-does-captain-delvarus-of-the-world-eaters-look-like/#findComment-3631527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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