mytimeprez Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 So after a long break from the hobby, I am working on my Templars again to fit in with the new "codex" and wanted some advice on what to add to the army and I also need some help with a name for my crusade and a new crusade badge. My Templars as they stand today: I have a battle company sized infantry, 20 terminators, various HQ's (about 6), 3 rhinos, 2 drop pods, 2 crusaders, a vindi and pred, 2 dreads, and 2 stormtalons I just finished. Thanks in advanced for any advice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trignama Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 You will absolutely want grav in way or another, via bikes or preferrably centurions. Heresy codex's can produce some crazy deathstar Melee units that we can only really counter with heavy grav shooting. Crusaders are about average in the game right now, but not as assault units. Their best roles are either small 5 man heavy+special teams using rhino bunkers, or large 20 man bolter teams with a plasma gun. Our chapter tactics seem a bit meek at first, but in game they are actually pretty damned useful (maybe not the sweeping advance bonus, but that depends entirely on your local meta). The bonus to deny the witch is incredibly useful though. You really want to stay away from assault, not because Templars are horrid at it (we are roughly just below mid-tier in that dept.) but moreso the edition really doesn't favor it at all. that is all i have. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/#findComment-3642701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mytimeprez Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 Thanks for the advice I picked up some centurions for some grav shots Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/#findComment-3644231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andhil Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Well, CC is definitely do-able. It just need the entire list build to support your CC units, it's more challenging then the standard Grav-biker spam, but really fun. Do you play competitively, or for fun? When naming a Crusade, I recommend finding something that inspires you (and sounds awesome.) We've got all kinds of cool Crusades hanging around here. I can definitely advise this thread for inspiration: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283565-the-eternal-crusader/?p=3526790 This one contains many of this Forum's Crusades with badges and background. Check it out. Welcome back to the Eternal Crusade, Brother. May you bring glory to the Chapter! ++Imperator Vult!++ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/#findComment-3644302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyth23 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 add an Imperial Knight. (cool model to paint) If you like ForgeWorld models, check the Spartan Assault Tank. (or convert yours) also: + 1-2 whirlwind + more dreadnought + centurions are cool but expensive in money. + 1 more pod could be cool, 2pod at turn 1 and one later is a funny tactic. + some rhinos / razorback could help you sometime too. + one stormraven could be usefull someday. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/#findComment-3644451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trignama Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I agree on the spartan assault tank. My buddy let me proxy them in a game (I took 2 of them and the knight titan). I put 20 angry dudes in there with a chappy..... It would have been awesome, but he played his FMC deamon list, and I missed 4 rounds of twin-linked las fire from both tanks, thats right, not a single 6. So yeah ha ha Other than that though I could see those things being amazing! and yes get a knight, definitely get a knight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/#findComment-3644487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipp01 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 The knoghts are fun, but they don't make an army. I think the best way to go is the usual; just find a way you like to play, build in some redundancy, build in some contingency, and leant the synergies you created. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/#findComment-3644533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metic Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I all but tabled tau on purge the alien with my triple assault star list last night. All I really run with my Templar now days is Assault units. Thanks to Imperial Knights It's become quite easy to get to the assault since it's so fast and such a large target it generally soaks up a lot of damage. Thus giving My Mechanized assault force an Easy in and turn 2 assaults for generally the entire army. He was running suit spam with triple riptide in 2k. The best synergy I'm finding right now with my army is Concussive melee weapons with the Knight. I don't have to worry about High initiative monstrous creatures taking him out before he can swing(wraith knights). While things like chain fists are still a threat, no one else at my store plays assault except daemons. Again, thunder hammers/storm shield terminators are doing work on those MCs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/#findComment-3644575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mytimeprez Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 Thanks for all of the advice everyone. I play more for fun than competitive, but I like my army to make sense. I am not a spam "x" unit kind of guy but I do like options and the ability to play multiple lists. I think I'm going to go with a simple crusade badge with a whit background and red chevron with the Templar cross overlaid.... Still trying to come with a nam though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/#findComment-3644579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal_Roujakis Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Give me a hand drawing of the Crusade badge design, I'll see if I could Photoshop for you... Land Raiders are always 'fun' and even if you are up against giant competitive lists full of melta and haywire grenades and lances, 2 of them usually deters the opposition... especially if they are full of angry Terminators with Thunder Hammers :D Don't forget about anti-air and aerial units as well... Stalker/Hunters, Ravens and Talons if you want to strike from above Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/#findComment-3644780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mytimeprez Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 Yeah I do enjoy a few Land Raider Crusaders full of Terminators! Thanks Roujakis I will get that pic to you as soon as I can Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/#findComment-3644888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andhil Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 If you like LRC's with a real CC punch: Here's my setup for Assault Termies: 7x Termies, 4xTH/SS, 3x LC's escorted by a Chaplain in TDA. Really expensive, but wrecks whatever you throw them at. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/#findComment-3644963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mytimeprez Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 Here is my very rough Crusade Badge idea http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee474/mytimeprez/f9c860ae72fb7cb1af65e4209623e5ca.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/#findComment-3645311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dono1979 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 A common theme for crusade names is The location of the Crusade; city, planet, System, Sub-Sector etc. For example my Crusade is the Kildrech Crusade, taken from the name of the System which the Crusade was assigned to purge. This way you can come up with a fictional location (pretty easy in the 40K universe) and have at it. The badge is then often taken from the purpose/situation surrounding the Crusade. However this is often a little bit of a contradiction, as often the Crusade badges we see would not have been able to have been designed until the outcome of the Crusade is known :-) Like you have, keeping it simple is often the best. Mine simplified is; http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss62/dono1979/Kildrech2-1.jpg which is a simplified version of this ornate Crusade banner http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss62/dono1979/banner.jpg This all representing an isolated besieged Templar Fortress surrounded by a void shield with Reinforcing Templar drop podding in (the Crusade). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/#findComment-3645347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mytimeprez Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 That banner is awesome!!! I have been looking a different names as far as sectors and stuff and I thought I had one I liked the other day but realized someone else on the forums already used it. So, I'm back I the drawing board for now. Thanks for the advise.... The quest continues.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/#findComment-3645367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dono1979 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 See that unto itself can lend itself to names of systems or Crusades: Continue: Procedo, Pergo Corrupt the latin a little; Prokedo System or Pergo System Or the Unknown Crusade; Nescitus Crusade Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/#findComment-3645398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mytimeprez Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 Ok, trying to narrow down some options on a new name for my Crusade. Crusade of Hatred and Sorrow Memoria Crusade Obscurus Crusade or I'm open to suggestions.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/#findComment-3645416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dono1979 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I really like the sound of Memoria Crusade, you could use a book on the Crusade badge which would open up the ability to use the GK book icons on your vehicles and suchlike. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/#findComment-3645423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mytimeprez Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 I was thinking with the Memoria Crusade they would carry banners and wear Crusade badges of other notable crusades in addition to their own. I did a LRC with that concept..... http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee474/mytimeprez/f1990157.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/#findComment-3645438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dono1979 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 That's a pretty awesome idea. It could be a Crusade to search out and record all other Templar Crusades! The amount of dark secrets and dangerous recovery missions you would uncover doing that sort of research would definitely warrent a well armed Crusade! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/#findComment-3645440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal_Roujakis Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 One of the things that you could reference as well is the Crusade's motive, mine took up the Vengeance Crusade coz' I had personal vendetta against a 'Cheese' list gamer in my area who did nothing but take down every new guy we had, and I was a new guy ... but that was a good 4 years ago... and now I molded the fluff of my Crusade to fit the name... except I am now hunting a Marshal murdering rogue Inquisitor... You could worry about the fluff later, just work on a good name, a decent army build according to your playstyle, and everything else will fall down after that... I also forgot... Welcome to the Eternal Crusade Brother... May your Sword pierce through the Darkest Hours of the Imperium and slay the Heretics from within and Xenos from without... Let the Flames of your Crusade spread through the darkest of places... Let none stand against us... for the Emperor is with us! No Pity! No Remorse! No Fear! And here's a quick draft of your Badge based on your draft... you could make a hand drawing and just scan it with a scanner, or take pictures of it and post it here... add in extra details as you see fit, and I'll try to work on it... http://i1151.photobucket.com/albums/o622/Marshal_Roujakis/unknownbadge_zpse8fcf533.png click on the badge and copy the img url Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/#findComment-3645441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elenmar Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 The crusade of memory... I like it! Perhaps the High Marshal himself is interested in recovering portions of the chapters history. With our librarium destroyed much of the chapters records have been lost. High marshals have done their best to make sure the accounts aboard the Eternal Crusader are as extensive as possible, but perhaps a crusade to look for some of the missing pieces of the chapter's history is needed... Hmm, makes me think of battle historians or something. I think this actually a really cool idea that hasn't been tapped into before! If you like it then I think you should go for it, it would make for a very cool and unique crusade in my opinion. We press ever onwards brothers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/#findComment-3645450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andhil Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I like the idea of the Memoria Crusade too, for the exact reasons Elenmar gave. +1 That Land Raider looks great really. Some sweet freehand work there. And I always like references to the Declates Crusade. (and any other Crusades where we work together with other Sons of Dorn.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/#findComment-3645451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dono1979 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Looks like you might have hit on a stellar idea there mytimeprez Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/#findComment-3645470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mytimeprez Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 It appears that the Memoria Crusade is born, thanks everyone for your input. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289046-the-memoria-crusade-etl-vow-1-complete/#findComment-3645607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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