T0MMY Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Well, a Leman Russ BT + an Exterminator + 2 x vet squads with no upgrades is 400 points, so you could add a tank commander for 30 more but have to run tanks together, or add a cheap HQ but have less points for upgrades... Edit: I'd be tempted to go for an exterminator over a standard BT against marines. My 500 points would be tank commander in exterminator + lascannon + HB sponsons + another exterminator with HB + vet squad, 2 plasma & grenadier + vet squad, heavy flamer, melta & vox. Neato! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Uri Posted May 12, 2014 Author Share Posted May 12, 2014 First option sounds good as he has said he will be using dark eldar. Any tips you can give for fighting them? I know he has a heavy, transport and a flying thing, it's small though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Against the Dark Eldar you'd probably be best sticking to our strengths of numbers and fire power. They can hit hard but are weak so expensive units could be a bad idea depending on what your opponent takes. Cover ignoring weaponry is good too, the Exterminator and Eradicator will be good picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Uri Posted May 12, 2014 Author Share Posted May 12, 2014 Could I use the gatling LR glance his... well it is his tank I suppose... could it glance it to death? He mentioned it would be hard to hit and with a bs of 3 that could be a pain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 DE skimmers are weak, glancing them apart is a viable tactic. They're no harder to hit than anything else though, so maybe he's talking about the upgrade that takes 6" off your range or grants an invulnerable save? The Punisher is a bit short ranged though, ideally you'd be blasting them out of their rides outside of 24". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Uri Posted May 13, 2014 Author Share Posted May 13, 2014 Ok the box sets have arrived! My god there huge lol. Okies I know about magnitizing turrets but can I do something similar with gaurd men or if they are to be a flamer that's how they stay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 The Emperor has sent you a challenge - do not fail Him Uri ;) Magnetising tanks is a lot easier than troopers, but I think it's harder with Guardsmen compared to Marines due to how the kits work. If it's an "in hand" weapon like from the Command Squad box then you might be able to get a small magnet in the handle hand to swap out plasma and melta. I think you could also use a magnet in the torso to swap between flamer and grenade launcher assuming you can glue the backpack to the arm ok. I've not done this though so it's purely theoretical musings but I think it can work if you're careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Uri Posted May 13, 2014 Author Share Posted May 13, 2014 I'll have a look when I get home. I hope it's that the gun is its own part. If not then I'll just buy some more to replace them. I don't finish for another two hours but the question is bugging me. I know the LR's I got are only three variants but do the guardsman come with all the possible weaponry or do I just have a box of Las gun troops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 The Guardsman box comes with a grenade launcher and flamer set, along with the bits to make a Sergeant (laspistol and chainsword) and a Vox. They're entirely separate bits so you can make what you like :) You can get the melta and plasma through either the metal blisters or from the Command Squad box, which also has the heavy flamer bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Uri Posted May 13, 2014 Author Share Posted May 13, 2014 Should I always add a Sargent? If so Las pistol and chainsword or lasgun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomkapow Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 if you have some converting experience, the sergeants can now take bolters for 1 point each. That is what I equip all my sergeants with. But yes, sergeants are free in the infantry squads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 The ability to add bolters is new and welcome, but I'd probably save it for Veteran Sergeants. You do need to create a Sergeant for each squad armed with a pistol and close combat weapon (depending on what you buy, again I recommend not spending on squaddie sergeants) so take that into account when you're planning your squads and building the models :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Uri Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 Well I'm building the list mentioned earlier so that's two vet squads and a PCS so every sarge gets a bolter though that maybe hard. I'll have to wait till everyone is assembled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Uri Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 In a perfect world, where money flows like wine, I'd buy 2 (probably catachans because i have cadians out the wazoo): CCS w/ 2xsnipers, vox, medic,stealth gear, colonel with toys. PCS w/ 3xflamers, vox -2x IS w/ grenade launchers, voxes -HWS w/ 3x AC -HWS w/ 3x ML Vet Squad w/ 2x PG, HF, vox, Chimera (MLaser & HF) Vet Squad w/ 2x MG, HF, vox, Chimera (MLaser & HF) 2x Leman Russ (magnetize the turret guns) All parts available between the 2 boxes. 3 troops slots, 1 HQ, 2 heavies. Solid starter army to build off of. my question is whats an IS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 IS is short for Infantry Squad here. There are a lot of them to remember, so I try to look at them in context as that can often provide you with the clue you need :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Uri Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 Ok and can 3 men out 5 in a PCS have flamers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomkapow Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 If i remember correctly, any guardsmen not upgraded to a heavy flamer, vox, medic, platoon standard, or heavy weapon team can take a special weapon. So you can take: PCS 3 Flamers 1 Heavy Flamer = or = PCS 4 flamers *These units go great in Vendettas* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Uri Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 Wow I thought it may have been to good to be true. Looks like I'm sticking to the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Only the officer can't take any of the upgrades (he has his own to pick from) so that's why you'll often find Platoon Command Squads with 4 flamers. Cheap and gets around the lack of BS4 and gives them a role they might otherwise struggle to find - what's not to like? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Also how do you fit 2 russes into a 500 game... that sounds cheesely hilarious Easy. Two naked russes are 300. Two naked vet squads and a naked company command squad will run 180. That leaves 20 points for upgrades....not much, but do you really need your infantry to perform when you have two battle cannons in 500 points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Should I always add a Sargent? If so Las pistol and chainsword or lasgun? Can IS Sergeants take a lasgun? Lasguns don't appear in the Ranged Weapons Lists, unless I am both blind and very stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Sergeants can't have lasguns, sadly - pistol and CCW only :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Uri Posted June 15, 2014 Author Share Posted June 15, 2014 Another question. At the moment I am painting first and assembling after so it's easier to get into those hard to reach places. Will the base coat make gluing harder or can I stop masking up the parts that get glued as it's very time consuming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Unfortunately the basecoat will very adversely effect gluing, and your model will easily fall apart unless you keep masking the parts that are to be glued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 You can scrape some of the paint off from the joining parts, or score them to give the glue something to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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