Jolemai Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Exactly. Take your time to read the FAQ folks and digest it :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3698938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Morticon shouldn't have won nationals. That gave tje impression that BAs were too powerful and GW had to act quick to let people playing weaker factions enjoy the game. A fair nerf to the most OP army in 7th. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3698943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Hahahhahhahahhah - funny funny :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3698944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 So will my furiosos benefit? I'm actually confused, not troll Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3698945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 hey being a nid/chaos player I know that laughing is more offten then not , the only way to deal with an edition or two. Anyone knows how biomancy works , when it is cast by libby dread? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3698948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushtarador Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 +3AV instead of T No sadly not, but damn that would be AWESOME :D We assume powers just work as normal, and if something doesn't make sense (like EW or +T) you just ignore it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3698958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZ_AV_NZ Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Theres alot of talk that GW did some copy and paste errors. Grey knights got whirlwinds and vindicators. Hopefully we get our pimped rides back. Orks can only use daemonolgy now so well likely get new powers if they do in there new codex. Its called Marketing lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3698996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrahawk Posted May 28, 2014 Author Share Posted May 28, 2014 I would be really surprised if we really lost the Lucifer engines, because the Baal has them. Nothing new here, just your typical GW oversight/typo. Hopefully this get fixed before our new 'dex. Wouldn't count on it though. I also kind of saw the psychic power change coming, since my other army the DAs went through it with their 6th Ed dex. A shame though, since army specific powers bring a lot of flavour. But yay for Furioso Libbies being LV2! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3699004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Hey guys, if we can get a mail from Black Library and maybe a template email we can all write in individually -may push them to make a call on it. So will my furiosos benefit? I'm actually confused, not troll Benefit from what buddy? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3699011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Admetus Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 http://memegenerator.net/instance/50156868 *headdesk* - I might try a Dante based deep-strike list, but I'm not liking these changes too much. That, or my Librarian-spam list. GW giveth a points break on mastery level upgrades, but taketh away all the nice toys... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3699115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabadin Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Well at least they finally clarified glaives as swords and axes only. Still chuckling at the mental image of a bloidthirster possessing a dread though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3699121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/50156868.jpg *headdesk* - I might try a Dante based deep-strike list, but I'm not liking these changes too much. That, or my Librarian-spam list. GW giveth a points break on mastery level upgrades, but taketh away all the nice toys... Don't forget your tags! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3699129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orogen Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 One thing, I know there hasn't been a change to our characters/ICs... but did anybody see characters CAN be joined by ICs? Correct me here, but the new IC rule is they can't join monsterous creatures (good bye Ovessa), no mention of characters. Still have to deliver Mephiston now via storm raven or other transport, but pairing him with an allied IC on the board or starting in a raven with another BA IC might be good? A lot of options at least. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3699183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapelXIII Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 That is what I have been gathering as well Origen. I'm not sure who would be useful to do that though. Maybe someone with an invuln save or the like to tank some of those ap 2/1 wounds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3699195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushtarador Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Before there was a rule that units that always consisted of only 1 model could not be joined by ICs, not sure where it was though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3699351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leksington Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 One thing, I know there hasn't been a change to our characters/ICs... but did anybody see characters CAN be joined by ICs? Correct me here, but the new IC rule is they can't join monsterous creatures (good bye Ovessa), no mention of characters. Still have to deliver Mephiston now via storm raven or other transport, but pairing him with an allied IC on the board or starting in a raven with another BA IC might be good? A lot of options at least. Yea, I read about a unit consisting of Mephiston, joined by Corbullo, Coteaz and Draigo. Corbs tanks the small arms fire, Draigo tanks the bigger stuff. And since they all have different toughnesses, you can use Mephiston's T6 wound shenanigans. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3699422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 One thing, I know there hasn't been a change to our characters/ICs... but did anybody see characters CAN be joined by ICs? Correct me here, but the new IC rule is they can't join monsterous creatures (good bye Ovessa), no mention of characters. Still have to deliver Mephiston now via storm raven or other transport, but pairing him with an allied IC on the board or starting in a raven with another BA IC might be good? A lot of options at least. Yea, I read about a unit consisting of Mephiston, joined by Corbullo, Coteaz and Draigo. Corbs tanks the small arms fire, Draigo tanks the bigger stuff. And since they all have different toughnesses, you can use Mephiston's T6 wound shenanigans. Filth! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3699444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Yeesh - Im CONVINCED that "fast"-up is a cut/paste error. We cant be expected to pay more for nothing O_O Perhaps sir you've never heard of "Veterans of the Long war" from Codex Chaos Space Marines, and it's Black Legion supplement? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3699467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orblivion Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Before there was a rule that units that always consisted of only 1 model could not be joined by ICs, not sure where it was though It was part of the IC rule itself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3699510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabgoi Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Well, looks like I am going to be ignoring this edition for a bit. I am the only one in my gaming group who has this rule book so far and I am not likely to pull it out. And my local GW store sucks so bad I drive an extra half hour to get to a local game store called Games Plus for my minis and supplies. Worth the extra time and gas to avoid that GWS. No Imperial Knights can be used there, the guy doesn't know how to paint or understand most armies and do not get me started on the tournament rules they use. Nothing like buying a shiney new $140 unit and not being able to use it. Damn I miss the Chicago Battle Bunker. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3699707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Hey guys, if we can get a mail from Black Library and maybe a template email we can all write in individually -may push them to make a call on it. So will my furiosos benefit? I'm actually confused, not troll Benefit from what buddy? Template is a good idea, its worked before. I was wonderkng if the new wording allowed Furiosos to benefit from the Bloood Chalice rules? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3699804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Hey guys, if we can get a mail from Black Library and maybe a template email we can all write in individually -may push them to make a call on it. So will my furiosos benefit? I'm actually confused, not troll Benefit from what buddy? Template is a good idea, its worked before. I was wonderkng if the new wording allowed Furiosos to benefit from the Bloood Chalice rules? All dreads have been able to gain FC from Blood Chalice in 5th and 6th edition. No change in 7th. FNP would have no effect on a dread as they don't take wounds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3699805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Damn I feel dumb, my furiosos could have been even more awesome. Should have played more I guess. Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3699815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 One thing, I know there hasn't been a change to our characters/ICs... but did anybody see characters CAN be joined by ICs? Correct me here, but the new IC rule is they can't join monsterous creatures (good bye Ovessa), no mention of characters. Still have to deliver Mephiston now via storm raven or other transport, but pairing him with an allied IC on the board or starting in a raven with another BA IC might be good? A lot of options at least. Yea, I read about a unit consisting of Mephiston, joined by Corbullo, Coteaz and Draigo. Corbs tanks the small arms fire, Draigo tanks the bigger stuff. And since they all have different toughnesses, you can use Mephiston's T6 wound shenanigans. Correct me if I'm wrong but the new rules say ICs can join other ICs but no mention of just characters, so wouldn't the fact that mephy is not an IC take precedence i.e. he can't join anything, ICs or no ICs? I do hope I'm wrong here :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3699818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 One thing, I know there hasn't been a change to our characters/ICs... but did anybody see characters CAN be joined by ICs? Correct me here, but the new IC rule is they can't join monsterous creatures (good bye Ovessa), no mention of characters. Still have to deliver Mephiston now via storm raven or other transport, but pairing him with an allied IC on the board or starting in a raven with another BA IC might be good? A lot of options at least. Yea, I read about a unit consisting of Mephiston, joined by Corbullo, Coteaz and Draigo. Corbs tanks the small arms fire, Draigo tanks the bigger stuff. And since they all have different toughnesses, you can use Mephiston's T6 wound shenanigans. Correct me if I'm wrong but the new rules say ICs can join other ICs but no mention of just characters, so wouldn't the fact that mephy is not an IC take precedence i.e. he can't join anything, ICs or no ICs? I do hope I'm wrong here I have to check, but I'm pretty sure they just closed the monstrous creature loophole (killed the riptide/buffmander), but there is no longer a rule saying that ICs can join units of one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291489-7th-edition-faq-is-up/page/4/#findComment-3699824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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