[HH1.0] Imperial Fists Tactics

[MakoBoy88]

In rhinos?

 

In my Stone Gauntlet list would you bother with 440 points in LR, or would you spend that elsewhere? Like Vets in Rhinos for example?

 

Even though I run out of elite slots quick.

 

I wish Dorn was out to make terminators troops already.

[Slips]

Its why I run Pride :p

 

Yes, Vets are in Rhinos. Define 440 in a LR

 

Im actually very thankful for Wolf_Pack kitbashing me a Dorn :p

[MakoBoy88]

Yeah I bet. I'm

Praying he drops before my event in May! Haha.

 

Well I have two LR's for my 2 squads of Breachers. 2 Proteus' with AC. Would you spend them elsewhere?

[Slips]

I mean, for Stone Gauntlet, more or less as good as it gets unless you invest the points in the Land Raiders into more Breachers or other units like Rapiers, Vindicators, Deredeos, etc.

[Lord Blackwood]

It's funny cause outside of pride I've only ever really used armored breakthrough.

[MakoBoy88]

Well we all

Could have guessed that haha.

[Lord Blackwood]

Stone, Honor, And Ruthless Iron !

 

Engage the enemy

 

Destroy the enemy

 

Fear Naught

[Charlo]

Stone, Honor, And Ruthless Iron !

 

Engage the enemy

 

Destroy the enemy

 

Fear Naught

 

Explain yourself! :O

[Lachdannan]

I have only ever run the standard FoC or the Pride of the Legion. I really want to try out the Stone gauntlet, especially in Zone Mortalis. Just need to repurpose some 'breachers' I made long ago, that I can't take anymore.

[MakoBoy88]

I'm playing my first ZM game today.

 

Using pride to take sniper vets and terminators.

[Lachdannan]

Nice. I took the same for my first game. Link to my blog with photo's and results. We decided to use the Space Hulk tiles, as I have a lot of those. Made for a messy but fun game.

[MakoBoy88]

Well first game of ZM over and Breachers are even harder to use there!

 

Maybe I am just rubbish at Imperial Fists lol.

[Slips]

What was the Problem?

[MakoBoy88]

I used Breacher, phalanx Warders, Polux and terminators.

 

Breachers were just not survivable. They lost in combat to a tactical squad that charged. Polux got one shotted by a Powerfist when lured out on his own. Phalanx Warders did ok, but that's it.

[shandwen]

Tacticals should not have many advantages over breachers when the tacs charge. The loss of charging benefits should make combat roughly even (unless they have added cc weapons). Also on breachers you pay for versatility by having added special weapons: that is powerful but can be negated by the close confines of ZM.

[Slips]

Were you running Stone Gauntlet? Because if so, unless Polux Charged into that Fist Unit and not challenged him out with his 2 (on the Charge) S10 at I5 hits, one being MC'd, then he would have been T5 and immune to Power Fists IDing him unless it was an S10 hit.

 

Also, What special weapons did you take on your Squads? Normal Breachers should have Flamers in ZM for Shred which helps out by also giving D3 Overwatch Auto-Hits per gun.

 

And yeah, if the Tac Squad that charged your breachers got their charge bonus, they shouldnt have.

[Lachdannan]

Was going to mention the same about the Stone Gauntlet. Was it just bad rolling on your part? Quite curious as I plan on redoing some marines as Breachers (thinking with flamers and/or meltas for special).

[MakoBoy88]

Iv dissected the game with my opponent and it was just bad rolling. Yeah Polux lost his T5 when the squad died to other Gal Vorbak.

 

My Breachers had melta guns as that's what they are modelled with :(

 

And no, the tactical squad didn't get anything special or extra attacks, just good rolling haha.

[Slips]

Hmmm Bad Rolling it may be, I'm surprised Polux didn't kill the Power Fist Gal Vorbak Before he got to swing. What with his Fist being S10 and IDing the Multi-Wound T5 Gal Vorbak especially with the option to swing at I5.

Edited April 26, 2016 by Slipstreams

[MakoBoy88]

Yeah he did try and wollop him at I5, but failed to Wound, those damn 1's.

[Slips]

Sigh. Oh well.

[MakoBoy88]

Yeah. Maybe just an unlucky game.

 

Heresy has brightened up for me locally now that I have 4/5 opponents rather than just the one Word Bearer. It's great to see how IF tactics measure up to everyone else.

 

And also, other 40knplauers on other tables using If and marines in general too

[Slips]

Well, thats definitely cool, no doubt.

 

But, seeing as you've been having trouble rolling with Breachers, you think of changing up the Core of your lists? At the very least to broaden your Horizons?

[chosen40k]

Any tips on what to equip on deepstriking IF Terminators? Have the BaC box and trying to figure out what to put on them.

Edited April 26, 2016 by chosen40k

[Slips]

Any tips on what to equip on deepstriking IF Terminators? Have the BaC box and trying to figure out what to put on them.

1 Plasma Blaster per 5, Combi-Plasma on all the rest, pretty much.

 

No point gearing them up with storm shields and combat gear since Tartaros with Stromshields are incontestably better and you dont deepstrike Assault Units in either case since an assault unit standing around after deepstriking twiddling their thumbs is a unit thats going to eat all the spare Dakka.