Saul Invictus Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Greetings brothers, I'm currently (still, one year onwards) working on my 3rd company Command squad, and I'm at a loss for the standard. The main banner is far beyond my abilities to replicate, but so far my efforts to make something decent are quite lacklustre. In my force I've got some Grey Knight Paladins and Sanguinary Guard, both with their banners, but as my Ultramarines are my main detachment, I don't want them to be the force with the awful banner. All I ask then, is if anybody has any ideas, pictures, art work etc to help come up with an idea. I was at one point looking to make a Standard of the Emperor Ascendant, but I've accepted that that is way beyond me. Here's the current, very WiP, incarnation of what I've got:http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx181/Sambuuca/Mobile%20Uploads/Crusade%20WiP/20140729_175150_zpskx1jvmt_edit_1407057096321_zpswth8kcrq.jpg Cheers in advance guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294594-ultramarines-standards/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 The Ultramarines' standards? High. Very high. They're the Imperium's best after all. EDIT: More seriously, the banner you've got there looks good. Is it all freehand or do I spy some decals on there? Also, I think I have some UM banner examples somewhere, so if you're interested in those, I could send them to you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294594-ultramarines-standards/#findComment-3764484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Jump on eBay, grab a copy of the 3rd Ed. Codex (iirc, it shows them all) cut out your banner and kick it old school with a paper banner. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294594-ultramarines-standards/#findComment-3764509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fearlessgod Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 If I remember correctly, 3rd Company is the "Scourge of the Xenos" and is famous for fighting Tyranids. Maybe add a scroll listing the Company's battle honours or something pertaining to Nids. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294594-ultramarines-standards/#findComment-3764556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I cannot draw to save my life. I have found that in order to make anything look half the way I want it to I have to "grid" the area. Draw a grid on the original and on the banner and then rather than attempting to draw the entire picture, only draw each little square. the corrections are FAR easier and the overall effect actually comes out looking closer to what you want it too. Try it and maybe it will work for you too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294594-ultramarines-standards/#findComment-3764720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrad81 Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Definitely +1 to 200Plus' suggestion! I hate freehand, but I've found doing a few practice runs on a piece of A4 first always helps me as well. I also tend to paint the shape of any 'fiddly' bits from the outside inwards, if that makes sense? So for example if painting a green wreath on a black background, I'd block in the rough shape in green, but then paint inwards with the black to create a more defined shape. Works for me anyway! Having said that, your banner looks pretty awesome already to me! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294594-ultramarines-standards/#findComment-3764821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexious Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 There was a third company standard that was a sticker too at one time. Might be able to find it out there as well. Also, you could find the old paper black and white version, copy it and hand paint it as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294594-ultramarines-standards/#findComment-3764841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Invictus Posted August 4, 2014 Author Share Posted August 4, 2014 Thank you all for your help, I've dug out an old, unused codex and took the banner out of there. Still needs work, lots of it, but it's shaping up nicely. Thank you all again. http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx181/Sambuuca/Mobile%20Uploads/Crusade%20WiP/output_zps8da7gohl.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294594-ultramarines-standards/#findComment-3765835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxichobbit Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Looking good . I did the 3rd Company Standard Bearer for last years LPC. I know it's a bit late and you've already got a solution, but I did a bit of WIP with some details of the process I went through. I'll link it here in case there's something useful for you for doing future banners. I found the trick was to plan it all out with a rough "sketch" on the banner before applying any colour of detail. I'm not sure if I mention it in the WIP, but I remember drawing a cross over the banner before I started anything else to split the banner to show the centre both vertically and horizontally, which then acted as a guide to position the various elements. I also remember there was a lot of painting out a white outline then going back and painting over it in black and starting again. That first stage is the key part, don't rush it and take your time getting everything the right shape, position and size. It's a similar idea to 200Plus' grid, just with a less detailed grid. I then slowly built up the detail one area at a time. Just be patient and work slowly with it, going back to fix any mistakes once an area is finished. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294594-ultramarines-standards/#findComment-3766985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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