30k Vehicle/Automata Concepts - The Manufactorum

[Marshal Rohr]

Blood hammers are old epic vehicles iirc.

[malika666]

Source?

[Marshal Rohr]

Uhh... Old epic?

[Majorbookworm]

Just saying, there is already a 'dreadhammer' in HH, its the gun used on the Typhon, though a Stormsword-like version of the fellblade would be cool.

[depthcharge12]

It'd be cool if the IWs one shot magna melta shells :devil:

 

Something like S10 AP1 Wrecker small blast, but becomes S:D against fortifications.

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

Blood hammers are old epic vehicles iirc.

 

I've been looking for mentions of this, but the only reference to the Bloodhammer is from Betrayer - there certainly didn't seem to be a miniature for it in Epic, maybe it was referenced in the source material?

 

Just saying, there is already a 'dreadhammer' in HH, its the gun used on the Typhon, though a Stormsword-like version of the fellblade would be cool.

 

I'm aware of the Typhon's dreadhammer cannon, but Angels of Caliban specifically mentions a super-heavy vehicle called the Dreadhammer which fires void-shells - apparently Alan Bligh was involved with the book's information on the I^st Legion's structure, so it's possible that the Dreadhammer will be referenced in the text of the FW book which covers them (although I'd be doubtful of them getting a Legion-specific super-heavy, as that doesn't really seem to be FW's style)

 

Yeah, the relation between the Fellhammer (the name for the standard pattern) and the Fellblade is akin to that of the Stormsword (or Hellhammer) & Baneblade - a short ranged urban warfare / siege tank, similar in style to the Vindicator & Typhon (so would fill out that triumvirate similar to the Falchion / Laser-destroyer Vindicator / Cerberus).

 

It'd be cool if the IWs one shot magna melta shells

 

Something like S10 AP1 Wrecker small blast, but becomes S:D against fortifications.

 

Great minds think alike - although I'm planning on the Iron Warriors' Balehammer getting some souped-up non-melta siege shell that can beat the out of fortifications, so the Sallies' Cinderhammer can have the melta / thermal shells. On that note, here's the ideas I have for the sub-type specialist shells I have so far:

* DA Dreadhammer: warp shells, as given

* EC Dawnhammer: blind / plasma shell for dealing with heavy infantry

* IW Balehammer: siege / wrecker shells

* IF Sternhammer: seismic shells with concussive & a cover-reducing / difficult terrain mechanic

* Scars' Stormhammer: shells which reduce movement / cc ability of effected units

* SW Foehammer: I really don't want to go with some sort of cryo shell, but I might end up resorting to that

* NL Mournhammer: psychotropic shells with the Harlequins' hallucinogen rule

* BA Grimhammer: Fleshbane / rending anti-infantry shells

* IH Forgehammer: Graviton shells, with very similar rules to the Knight-Atropos' Graviton Singularity Cannon

* WE Bloodhammer: Airburst shells, so large area-of-effect / ignores cover / anti-infantry

* Ultras' Strikehammer: Some kind of tracing rule, so gives bonus to other Ultra units firing upon enemy within radius of attack

* DG Blighthammer: Bio-alchemic shell - you get the idea

* TS Nullhammher: units wounded suffer an automatic psychic attack 

* SoH Banehammer: really good at killing power armour

* WB Spitehammer: incendiary shells

* Sallies' Cinderhammer: melta / thermal shells (combo of the 2 pyroclast weapon profiles)

* RG Shadehammer: rules similar to the Darkwing's eclipse missiles, but more killy

[Charlo]

Call the DG one a huge Phosphex shell with poison 2+ ignore cover ap2 and a special creeping fire/ lingering death rule that means dangerous terrain from it is at ap2 as well... :D

[Knight of the Raven]

A little correction; the Salamanders' tank would be called Hammerhammer.

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

Call the DG one a huge Phosphex shell with poison 2+ ignore cover ap2 and a special creeping fire/ lingering death rule that means dangerous terrain from it is at ap2 as well...

 

I was actually gonna make a phosphex shell available to any generic Fellhammer if there's a Siege Breaker Consul in the army, as it seems an almost perfect weapon fro city fighting - the DG one will focus on poison based rules due to being Bio-Alchem munitions

 

A little correction; the Salamanders' tank would be called Hammerhammer.

 

Haha, I'm damn proud I managed to avoid 'Ironhammer' for both the IV^th & X^th Legions

[malika666]

Uhh... Old epic?

Ok, but the thing is that 'old Epic' had plenty of rulebooks and what not. So in which publication?

 

And also, why isn't there an Alpha Legion version of that tank?

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

 

Uhh... Old epic?

Ok, but the thing is that 'old Epic' had plenty of rulebooks and what not. So in which publication?

 

And also, why isn't there an Alpha Legion version of that tank?

 

 

Cause they get to take any of the other Legion-specific ones, sneaky alphas...

[Charlo]

 

Uhh... Old epic?

Ok, but the thing is that 'old Epic' had plenty of rulebooks and what not. So in which publication?

 

And also, why isn't there an Alpha Legion version of that tank?

 

 

It's there... It's just hidden in plain sight 

[Marshal Rohr]

 

 

Uhh... Old epic?

Ok, but the thing is that 'old Epic' had plenty of rulebooks and what not. So in which publication?

 

And also, why isn't there an Alpha Legion version of that tank?

It was Epic Space Marine or the edition that went from heresy to 40k. The 100 series of white dwarf. I've only got access to the games-workshop libraries so it would be in one of those.

 

 

Edit: Not games workshop... The filter is blocking it out. It's the website that also has libraries of academic uploads for research and keyword searches for passages in books.

Edited June 8, 2016 by Marshal Rohr

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

LEGION FELLHAMMER SUPER-HEAVY ASSAULT TANK:

Note: I'd originally planned to have bracing rods either side of the main cannon akin to those on the Leman Russ Demolisher, but alas there wasn't a viable image I could transplant them from

Edited June 8, 2016 by Iron Hands Fanatic

[helterskelter]

Your special Night Lords bits are making me think about a scarecrow (of batman fame) esque special character who leads this array of psychotropic armed brethren.

Loving it

[STC Logisengine]

Nice!

Looks suitably brutal.

 

Funny you used the sideshields from the Vindicator Destroyer in tandem with a large cannon, just this afternoon I was contemplating the validity of converting those with a big cannon to make more suitable Legion Medusas for this Destroyer Company detatchment I have been toying around with.. (because mass phospex deployment is too cool not to go for)

[Dantioch]

Man that thing looks brutal, awesome work! 

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

Your special Night Lords bits are making me think about a scarecrow (of batman fame) esque special character who leads this array of psychotropic armed brethren.

Loving it

 

Yeah, the fear toxin is actually kinda where I got the idea from, so that'd totally work - maybe an infamous captain / commander of a Night Lords 'siege' battalion which uses psychotropic munitions & flame weapons to take enemy bastions without having to actually breach them, repeatedly censured for the effects such weapons had on allied units?

 

Nice!

Looks suitably brutal.

 

Funny you used the sideshields from the Vindicator Destroyer in tandem with a large cannon, just this afternoon I was contemplating the validity of converting those with a big cannon to make more suitable Legion Medusas for this Destroyer Company detatchment I have been toying around with.. (because mass phospex deployment is too cool not to go for)

 

Sounds cool dude - the gun-shield was actually an idea from a different fellblade chassis super-heavy tank based around the idea of Ferrus & Vulkan collaborating on up-scaling the Pyroclasts' flamer / melta weaponry - a tank I still have plans for by the way :P

 

Man that thing looks brutal, awesome work! 

 

Thanks dude - high praise indeed considering your Iron Warriors

[depthcharge12]

Looking good!!!!

[nefarious squirrel]

Mr Iron hands fanatic,

Been following your thread some great ideas there with background on them.

 

If i may make a suggestion with the fellhammer, as you've got a typhon which is like a sturmtiger assault gun, why not to prevent it fallibg into same postion in job role allow the fellhammer to have a modest transport capability, like 10 men. Simaler to a modern Merkava tank. Which is tooled up for urban work and can carry six men i think.

It makes use of the side doors then :)

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

Mr Iron hands fanatic,

Been following your thread some great ideas there with background on them.

 

If i may make a suggestion with the fellhammer, as you've got a typhon which is like a sturmtiger assault gun, why not to prevent it fallibg into same postion in job role allow the fellhammer to have a modest transport capability, like 10 men. Simaler to a modern Merkava tank. Which is tooled up for urban work and can carry six men i think.

It makes use of the side doors then

 

I've had ideas for a tank with some transport capacity based off the Fellblade chassis for a while, but I don't think it's particularly suitable for the Fellhammer - mainly because it'd require space to magically appear within the tank's hull - it's armaments and their munitions would take up no less space than those of the Fellblade, so it wouldn't really make sense. Plus, it's not supposed to fulfill the same role as the Typhon - the Fellhammer cannon is more akin to a slightly heavier, rapid-fire demolisher cannon, with versatility as it's main plus, having a number of different shell types to choose from.

 

Appreciate the suggestion though!

 

Edit:

just a note for y'all, I've got some more vehicle concepts to show, but I'm not with my scanner at the mo, so I'll upload the concept sketches later this week:

 

One's a heavy two-person version of the sentinel, kinda aimed at the Solar Auxilia & Death Korps of Kreig - heavier plating, an additional weapon, pintle mount & explorator adaptation - almost a 'siege sentinel' designed to fulfill the role of a battle tank in environments they can't go (see: urban ruins, marshy & mountainous terrain)

 

I'm also working on some sketches outlining what Deimos variants of the Baneblade & Shadowsword tanks would look like, with the idea of these being produced exclusively for the Legions owing to their higher quality materials & complex sub-assemblies

Edited June 12, 2016 by Iron Hands Fanatic

[Soldier of Dorn]

 

 

I'm also working on some sketches outlining what Deimos variants of the Baneblade & Shadowsword tanks would look like, with the idea of these being produced exclusively for the Legions owing to their higher quality materials & complex sub-assemblies

 

 

 

[depthcharge12]

A sentinel with a mauler bolt cannon or twin linked volkite culverin would be awesome!

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

A sentinel with a mauler bolt cannon or twin linked volkite culverin would be awesome!

 

Well, it's not admech so no Mauler bolt cannon, but the 30k version can have a single volkite culverin ... sometimes I feel like half this thread is stomping all over people's hopes and dreams

 

Seriously though, here's the loadout:

 

Starts off with a rotor cannon (twin-linked heavy stubber for the 40k version) & gorgon mortar

- Rotor cannon can be swapped for:

* Autocannon

* Heavy bolter

* Multi-melta

* Plasma cannon

* Volkite culverin

* Reaper autocannon

- Gorgon mortar can be swapped for:

* Missile launcher

* Lascannon

- Can take the following pintle-mounted weapons:

* Heavy stubber

* Heavy flamer

* Multi-laser

 

Red = 40k only, Blue = 30k only

Edited June 13, 2016 by Iron Hands Fanatic

[drakarth]

I want one