Russ Brother 92 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Hi All, I'm due to play a 1500pt game next week vs a 40k Nurgle-based Daemons list, I will be using my terminator based heresy list - I am wondering what the bed tactics are to face this thing? I have 2 Contemptors playing support (1 Las mortis and 1 conversion beamer) plus the Termies themselves (20 cataphractii) - my legion of choice is Iron Hands and whilst pricey I will be running it with a praetor. Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296057-countering-40k-daemons/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraCaptain Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 High str shots (with bad AP to get more shots per point) & a lot of both shots and bodies. They might also struggle against vehicles and air. Seem quite the opposite of what you got :-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296057-countering-40k-daemons/#findComment-3795889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 High str shots (with bad AP to get more shots per point) & a lot of both shots and bodies. They might also struggle against vehicles and air. Seem quite the opposite of what you got :-) Indeed I am rather heavy on the mid-str low-ap side of things and a bit worried that due to potentially only having 2 squads on the field I may get bogged down a lot - I could use my 40k SWs as tacticals and will probs see about using the heavy bolters for more long-range shots. Pretty much all out where vehicles are concerned atm - saving to pick up 6 Spartans for my eventual final force. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296057-countering-40k-daemons/#findComment-3796145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Volume of fire is what defeats deamons. Imperial Knights are also a good counter with stomp and high av. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296057-countering-40k-daemons/#findComment-3796734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 You can't just throw a knight in a HH force like you can in 40k. First off, it's actually a LoW in 30k. Secondly, only mechanicum can bring one currently, so he'd have to ally. Thirdly, the HH books state that you can't bring LoW under 2000. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296057-countering-40k-daemons/#findComment-3800602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 A low can be in lower point games, he can't take up more than 25% of points... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296057-countering-40k-daemons/#findComment-3800753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Its been a while since I check the rules, so I maybe mistaking it for something else. The point was that it is a lot more complicated to include a knight in 30k. Especially for games under 2000 points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296057-countering-40k-daemons/#findComment-3800992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 I just went in with 2 10 man cataphractii squads, 5 ML HS guys, both Contemptors (one single kheres, the other dual lascannon), MoS and my praetor - in truth it went really well - the MoS was ace (that orbital devastated his chaos lord's squad in one hit), the Contemptors held one board edge alone and the cataphractii did it's stuff due to the number of fours I rolled :D Only thing I'd change a lot would be in having some anti-psychic and some more long range low strength high shots units (heavy bolters, volkites and autocannons) to punch through the invul saves inherent to daemons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296057-countering-40k-daemons/#findComment-3806863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Sicarans with sponson heavy bolters chuck quite a bit of dakka, which is great against hordes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296057-countering-40k-daemons/#findComment-3832000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 I'll certainly see about picking up a couple - as it is my heavy support is pretty much empty - also contemplating a couple of support squads (1 Rotor Cannons and 1 Volkite) for the extra shots - sound viable? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296057-countering-40k-daemons/#findComment-3833256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 A heavy support squad will Volkites will generate tons of wounds on deamons, as they only save 1/third of wounds caused on average. A Tactical support squad in a rhino will give you a great mobile fire base as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296057-countering-40k-daemons/#findComment-3833261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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