Blindhamster Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) Shadow war has arrived, I can't help but feel a little sad that the injury and experience mechanics are so over simple. Likewise the new thunderhawk looks good he I struggle to feel it's enough of an improvement to buy as I have the old one (May change my mind I suppose). In the world of hobby for me I've been plodding through building marines but haven't actually painted anything for ages... Edited April 10, 2017 by Blindhamster Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4708382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grazcruzk Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 How are we feeling about ETL? I'm unsure if I'm burned out after the last one! I have a few things that have been on my desk for a while that it would be good to clear out, also the characters from the GBBO. I'm looking forward to entering my GBBO characters, but I think the only other thing I have that it isn't partially started is a dev squad. At least they can get fairly pointy at just five. Jolemai 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4708402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 There are other ways to make money, but you gotta do what you gotta do. How are we feeling about ETL? I'm unsure if I'm burned out after the last one! I have a few things that have been on my desk for a while that it would be good to clear out, also the characters from the GBBO. I always have stuff to paint, and always have a desire to paint. The only issue for me is having the time for it. This year I'll definitely have time early May so will make sure I capitalise on that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4708449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted April 10, 2017 Author Share Posted April 10, 2017 How are we feeling about ETL? I'm unsure if I'm burned out after the last one! I have a few things that have been on my desk for a while that it would be good to clear out, also the characters from the GBBO. Unsurprisingly, I'm feeling great about it ;) Will start the preparing us for the campaign soon... Grazcruzk and CaptainHelion 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4708450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Short report from the ork game. He had alot of looters and flash gitz as also an snotzooka, some bosses in megarmor, one gorkanaut boss with lucky stick and some boys and snotlings. Things went verry balanced. One fragioso stuck in a criplefight with the gorkanaut. Fragioso got his frag cannon ripped of but he managed to explode the gorka after two full cc rounds off wiffing each other. Coteaz tanked alot of wounds and casted better reserves and rerolls on the Quad but died to mass fire from the flashgitz. My vindicare wiffed most of the time trying to kill some characters but killed the boss in the last round. We hqd to cancel after round 4 but i had a great lead in the end he could never get behind. So we agreed the ba won and called it a day. Was an verry relaxed match and we had much fun. Pic follow tomorrow. :) Damon Nightman and LutherMax 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4708453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) So I got a good amount for the ETL. My GBBO stuff, a termie captain and librarian, another sanguinary priest (probably relic plasma but unknown other items). Got plenty of bulk items to flesh out points. My goal is 250-300 pts per vow if possible. I'd like to get a good 3 vows minimum. Edited April 10, 2017 by Spagunk Jolemai 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4708463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted April 10, 2017 Author Share Posted April 10, 2017 *** Incoming message *** *** Intel incorrect, no sign of Xenos activity. Returning to base... *** Air support requested! Renegade Imperial Knight Detachment sighted! For Sanguinius, and The Emperor! *** Heavy damage sustained, but the objectives are secure. Additional reinforcements required to track down the surviving Knight. Relics safe. *** *** Message ends *** Battle Report transcript has been released from the archives on Baal. Riot Earp 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4708522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Finally just finished Dante. Damon Nightman and Riot Earp 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4708591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Shadow war has arrived, I can't help but feel a little sad that the injury and experience mechanics are so over simple. Experience, probably, but dont forget these are well supported (ish) soldiers, not the independant gangs of Necromunds. Any with a serious injust (lost eye, arm etc) will be taken from the front lines, given a bionic replacement and sent back. Otherwise, the old injury tables are available to be found online, and can add a lot of dimension and fun to a campaign, even if converting SM scouts will be a pain in the ass. Grazcruzk 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4708723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) I see our hopes for plastic T-Hawks have crashed and burned. ;( https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/10/thunderhawk-inbound/ Edited April 11, 2017 by Dont-Be-Haten Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4708846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I see our hopes for plastic T-Hawks have crashed and burned. ;( https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/10/thunderhawk-inbound/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4708864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) I see our hopes for plastic T-Hawks have crashed and burned. ;( https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/10/thunderhawk-inbound/ Quite literally for me: I ordered the FW Industrial Sector, which I received last Friday, but one of the plates was mistakenly swapped with the Crashed Thunderhawk plate. Working out with FW support to send me the correct plate. Here's to hoping they let me keep the TH plate for free. Edited April 11, 2017 by RedemptionNL LutherMax, Tyriks and Damon Nightman 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4708871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) I see our hopes for plastic T-Hawks have crashed and burned. ;( https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/10/thunderhawk-inbound/ Quite literally for me: I ordered the FW Industrial Sector, which I received last Friday, but one of the plates was mistakenly swapped with the Crashed Thunderhawk plate. Working out with FW support to send me the correct plate. Here's to hoping they let me keep the TH plate for free. They likely will. The cost of having you ship the tile back to them is probably more than it cost them to make. You can always get a saw* and cut the crashed T-Hawk from the tile and mount it on a flying stand *Dont do this. Edited April 11, 2017 by Xenith Grazcruzk 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4708938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Almost finished with Captain Aphael... I've got to touch-up and redo a few little spots but getting closer! Damon Nightman, DeathcompanyDante, Lavaman and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4709130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Sorry still no pics from the ork battle. I was busy basing this guy. http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag185/Slaughter3000/IMG_20170411_212644_2_zpseoiueuyp.jpg Damon Nightman 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4709170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 So i've been sitting here pondering my shadow war kill team.I'll be playing some games with a mate of mine either at warhammer fest, or at our hotel after warhammer fest. He's going to bring orks, and if they aren't fun... chaos. I'm going to stick with scouts, i did briefly think about doing loyalist PA marines (easily done, use the chaos list, drop the cultists, replace marks with ATSKNF, use the BA skill table). But don't think that'd be all that much fun, it also feels like too much of a half job.So...Do I go for small and very well equipped? Go for Numbers? go for getting a heavy weapon in there? toyed with either: Numbers Sergeant with bolt pistol, power sword and camo gearScout with shotgunScout with shotgunScout with Assault Blade and Bolt PistolScout with Assault Blade and Bolt Pistol Scout Novitiate with Combat Blade and Bolt PistolScout Novitiate with Combat Blade and Bolt Pistolor Equipped Sergeant with bolt pistol, power sword and camo gearScout with Camo gear, Photo-visor and sniper rifle Scout with Camo gear, Photo-visor and sniper rifleScout with shotgunScout with Assault Blade and Bolt PistolScout with Assault Blade and Bolt Pistol or Heavy Sergeant with bolt pistol, power swordScout with Camo gear and sniper rifleScout with Assault Blade and Bolt Pistol Scout Gunner with Camo Gear and Missile Launcher with Frag and Super KrakScout Novitiate with Combat Blade and Bolt Pistol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4709230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Basing my experience in a lot of mordheim, numbers generally win. The "boys over toys" rule applies here also. Admittedly, the heavy bolter or frag missile can even the odds, but then you're pinning your hopes on one model. I can't remember the points, but will you be able to buy a heavy with the 200pts you get after a game, or will you only be able to get one upon warband creation? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4709285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) Basing my experience in a lot of mordheim, numbers generally win. The "boys over toys" rule applies here also. Admittedly, the heavy bolter or frag missile can even the odds, but then you're pinning your hopes on one model. I can't remember the points, but will you be able to buy a heavy with the 200pts you get after a game, or will you only be able to get one upon warband creation? So, my last mordheim experience was as shadow elves in a huge campaign... so will avoid further comment on that :D Heavy with a heavy weapon is around the 300 point mark. The heavy bolter would be a good choice vs orks I guess! In mordheim youngbloods actually got increases too, so they swiftly became better than the normal troops. That isn't the case here, in fact, novitiates sort of suck... actually the whole system for advancing sucks. Edited April 11, 2017 by Blindhamster Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4709300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Numbers are definitely good....but also rather boring imo. I prefer having few but rather unique guys in my team instead of twice as many faceless guys. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4709460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 You can spend 100p after a game. With an additional 100p if you spend one of your promethium cases. So 200p max (which is pretty bad for GK since their cheapest guys cost a bit more than 200p....yep the campaign rules aren't exactly made for the free pdf factions which is one more reason why I believe those are only temporary lists and we'll get more stuff in the future). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4709462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 You can spend 100p after a game. With an additional 100p if you spend one of your promethium cases. So 200p max (which is pretty bad for GK since their cheapest guys cost a bit more than 200p....yep the campaign rules aren't exactly made for the free pdf factions which is one more reason why I believe those are only temporary lists and we'll get more stuff in the future). We may get more, but I think the lists will stay as they are - You need different play styles for different armies. If GK cost a lot more, then they need to spend the first games building up their force, then making a push to win a campaign, while groups with cheaper troops can make an early push for victory, but be caught up by more elite warbands later. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4709463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 If you take the kill teams approach, numbers win over. That's one of the reasons Skaven were such a headache in mordheim. That and they were ridiculously fast. If you have a lot of shooty man's, you're opponent is going to have trouble dealing with your trench line. Plus losing chaff units isn't as big of a deal since they aren't large investments. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4709485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted April 12, 2017 Author Share Posted April 12, 2017 Folks, there's an official B&C announcement with regards to the ETL coming soon and, well, you're not going to like it... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4709494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Folks, there's an official B&C announcement with regards to the ETL coming soon and, well, you're not going to like it... What, are they combining us with Space Wolves or the Dark Angels? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4709514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Hope not that the start is getting postponed on a far later date. I´m in the painting mood and i have the time now. Getting married end of may and having honeymoon till mid june. So painting on a later date is getting difficult. Damon Nightman and Chaplain Gunzhard 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/230/#findComment-4709524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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