Damon Nightman Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 You forgot the DC strat to make it a 5+ fnp with reroll 1s I think, but this sounds awesome Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5052214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
toaae Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Can't use the banner on a model with Black Rage. Damon Nightman and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5052216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I knew it must have been me missing something there! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5052217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Surround him with hammernators, an ancient with the standard of sacrifice, and brother Corbulo and watch this unit never die! Indefragable 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5052264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Surround him with hammernators, an ancient with the standard of sacrifice, and brother Corbulo and watch this unit never die!  I actually prefer: Captain Unkillable -Hammer of Baal -Combi-melta Cataphractii Termies w/ LC Brother Corbulo Company Ancient  While TH/SS are hardier, the LC's benefit from Corb's buffs a bit more (+1S and exploding 6's) and the native 4++ from Cataphractii armor is still quite decent. It also lulls the enemy into thinking they can actually kill the unit :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5052296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Mephiston: Revenant Crusade is coming July. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/04/11/coming-soon-julys-black-library-releases/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5052973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Mephiston: Revenant Crusade is coming July. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/04/11/coming-soon-julys-black-library-releases/ Â Also, more Flesh Tearers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5053116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendent Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Did anyone ever listen to The Assasination of Gabriel Seth? It looks like it was probably released at some point and I'm actually sort of curious to hear what happened in it. Â https://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/the-assassination-of-gabriel-seth-mp3.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5053125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed72 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) Did anyone ever listen to The Assasination of Gabriel Seth? It looks like it was probably released at some point and I'm actually sort of curious to hear what happened in it.  https://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/the-assassination-of-gabriel-seth-mp3.html I listened to it a while back! It was alright, but then again I'm not the biggest fan of audio dramas... got me to paint my Gabriel Seth though! IIRC it was more of a snapshot of his life, rather than moving any larger story along. Edited April 11, 2018 by ed72 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5053160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendent Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Why did an assassin get sent after him? Just due to his general Flesh Tearer-ness? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5053167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Why did an assassin get sent after him? Just due to his general Flesh Tearer-ness? Â Guilliman wants Seth gone for being the only in-universe skeptic of New Coke Space Marines. Â (joke). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5053317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slothysaur Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Â Â Why did an assassin get sent after him? Just due to his general Flesh Tearer-ness? Guilliman wants Seth gone for being the only in-universe skeptic of New Coke Space Marines. Â (joke). Everyone else seems a little too accepting, it's nice someone voices concern. Â On a somewhat related note; I picked up a box of Blood Angels Aggressors. I've almost gone completely down the Primaris-rabbit hole, only missing the Repulsor, Reivers and Redemptor. To be honest I have no intention of including those models into my force, but I said that about Aggressors and here I am. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5053465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dread05 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) It's been a bad couple of days for my hobby. I tried to do a Dante conversion, made a mess with glue, I was trying to fix it for a good half day yesterday. I didn't like what I ended up with, so today I broke it apart and tried to save some of the parts. Im gonna order what got destroyed and ill start again. This is Dante we are talking about. I wont settle with something I half like. Edited April 12, 2018 by dread05 Indefragable 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5053704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Dante conversion is one of my great pie-in-the-sky hobby goals. Problem for me—and this is just personal taste—is that kitbashing wont really do. The Death Mask of Sanguinius is a one-of-a-kind piece of kit, so it simply will not do (IMHO) to simply kitbash one. It would have to be almost a complete greenstuff sculpting job. And I can barely sculpt a sandbag with green stuff, so my tastes are definitely far beyond my capabilities in that realm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5053982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dread05 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I'm going to use this mask for a couple of reasons.  https://www.sprubitz.co.uk/ekmps/shops/sprubitz/images/blood-angel-sanguinary-guard-space-marine-death-mask-helmet-scrolled--753-p.jpg  1) its had the blood drop that Dante's has. 2) it's halo most resembe's Dante's out of all the death masks available. 3) most importantly, I have not used this mask on any of my 10 sanguinary guards, so it will kinda stand out.  I was quite happy with what I was planning to do, but one of the shoulderpads didnt fit under the jump pack which resulted in me making a mess with the glue. Welp, next try. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5054028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda_Saurus_Rex Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Has anyone played DE since their codex dropped? I'm playing a guy this weekend and haven't played DE since 7th edition. Could use all the help I can get. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5054126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Not yet, but the only DE player in my group just started playing 40k right before the Codex dropped anyway so he's much to learn still. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5054146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I'm going to use this mask for a couple of reasons.  https://www.sprubitz.co.uk/ekmps/shops/sprubitz/images/blood-angel-sanguinary-guard-space-marine-death-mask-helmet-scrolled--753-p.jpg  1) its had the blood drop that Dante's has. 2) it's halo most resembe's Dante's out of all the death masks available. 3) most importantly, I have not used this mask on any of my 10 sanguinary guards, so it will kinda stand out.  I was quite happy with what I was planning to do, but one of the shoulderpads didnt fit under the jump pack which resulted in me making a mess with the glue. Welp, next try.  There ya go! You have a plan!  Has anyone played DE since their codex dropped? I'm playing a guy this weekend and haven't played DE since 7th edition. Could use all the help I can get.  I have not played them in 8th...but there is a pretty good DE player at my club who haunts B&C from time to time.  Disclaimer: 8th, let alone the new Codex, undoubtedly shook up DE overall, but a couple notes from my past engagements with them:  They are fast and they hurt...the definition of glass cannons ...except now they can get 4++ multi-wound Grotesques and such to mess up your small arms... Pound-for-pound they tend to have the fastest units in each class and have some incredibly potent weaponry, both melee and shooting Where they throw you off is that their speed often means that they are always attacking at the time and place of their choosing. Sure, they may go down easy to massed bolters and the such, but so often they can simply stay out of effective (massed) small arms fire and then be up in your grill blindingly fast They are Eldar, so they can psychically rock your world if they want to (8th changed this, apparently) They are "40k on hard mode." That can be your saving grace since they are an orchestra: you need to have so many components and elements working just right to really succeed. That will work against you because it means that someone who puts the time and effort into really getting to know DE is most likely a better player than you. Cronos/Talos pain engines are scary: treat them live evil dreadnoughts A big trick will be balancing anti-Deep Strike buffers like Scouts with the need to not give his Wyches/etc... springboards to get into your lines even quicker They can pull off some incredible ambushes and feints...be very cautious extending your forces to polish off a unit or to go for the kill. If it looks too easy...then either your opponent is a noob or it is designed to look too easy In summation, they play like pointy-eared Tyranids in the sense that their speed and lethality is never to be underestimated. Where DE are theoretically a bit more managable is that they have less Monstrous Creatures/equivalents (even their vehicles go down relatively quickly) and they don't have (good) Horde units to mess you up Have a plan and stick to it, no matter what. Whether that's castling, going for objectives, or going Captain Insane-O balls-to-the-wall, just focus on your strategy and executing it as well as you can. Don't get distracted by all the flourishes For counter-cheese, bring a CP-Miner IG detachment and keep baiting him into using the Agents of Vect Strategem. That way he's burning 3CP and you have a chance to earn CP at the same time! It's a battle of wits! Panda_Saurus_Rex 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5054174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I second their speed. It's easy for them to be in your face turn 1 even without deep strike. Assault Cannons would do some nasty work if you can keep it out of melee since it wounds their vehicles on 3s and their infantry on 2s. In melee with a priest nearby even our regular attacks will wound their vehicles on 3s lol It's probably a good idea to keep your army together to react to the DE players moves. He will definitely come towards you and if you have a unit too far out without support he can easily swarm and kill it. Panda_Saurus_Rex 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5054444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda_Saurus_Rex Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I appreciate the insight guys, thank you!  Here is what I am bringing:  Cadian CP Miner Batt  Commander - Kurov's, Grand Strat Commander Tempestor Prime - Command rod  Infantry - mortar Infantry - mortar Infantry - mortar Scions - meltaguns X2 Scions - meltaguns X2  Heavy Weapons - autocannon X3 Heavy Weapons - autocannon X3  BA Vanguard  Capt Smash Librarian - JP, plasma pistol, force sword  Death Co X15 - JP, bolters & chainswords Sanguinary Ancient Sang Guard - swords X5, fists X5  BA Supreme Command  Capt - JP, relic blade, plasma pistol Mephiston Lemartes  Drop Pod   I am kind of limited between the models I am borrowing from a friend (guard stuff) in that he doesn't have plasma scions or I would be taking those instead. I also don't have a 2nd Capt Smash so playing the relic blade guy. Overall I think this is better than my normal pure BA list and I hope I am able to drop in my assault elements together to overload one side. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5054751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I appreciate the insight guys, thank you!  Here is what I am bringing:  Cadian CP Miner Batt  Commander - Kurov's, Grand Strat Commander Tempestor Prime - Command rod  Infantry - mortar Infantry - mortar Infantry - mortar Scions - meltaguns X2 Scions - meltaguns X2  Heavy Weapons - autocannon X3 Heavy Weapons - autocannon X3  BA Vanguard  Capt Smash Librarian - JP, plasma pistol, force sword  Death Co X15 - JP, bolters & chainswords Sanguinary Ancient Sang Guard - swords X5, fists X5  BA Supreme Command  Capt - JP, relic blade, plasma pistol Mephiston Lemartes  Drop Pod   I am kind of limited between the models I am borrowing from a friend (guard stuff) in that he doesn't have plasma scions or I would be taking those instead. I also don't have a 2nd Capt Smash so playing the relic blade guy. Overall I think this is better than my normal pure BA list and I hope I am able to drop in my assault elements together to overload one side.  It actually does seem like it could do quite well against the DE. All those autocannons and mortars will probably actually do some good work. Panda_Saurus_Rex 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5054829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Spend a CP for a second relic and take Standard of Sacrifice on the Sanguinary ancient to give those SG a 5+FNP. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5054844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda_Saurus_Rex Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Spend a CP for a second relic and take Standard of Sacrifice on the Sanguinary ancient to give those SG a 5+FNP. Â Â I'm already spending 1 CP to give the Angel's Wing relic after taking Kurov's Aquila. Not sure if I want to spend that many pregame CP :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5054865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwalker Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Â Spend a CP for a second relic and take Standard of Sacrifice on the Sanguinary ancient to give those SG a 5+FNP. Â Â I'm already spending 1 CP to give the Angel's Wing relic after taking Kurov's Aquila. Not sure if I want to spend that many pregame CP Â Swap the wing for the scrolls Panda_Saurus_Rex 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5054914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda_Saurus_Rex Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018   Spend a CP for a second relic and take Standard of Sacrifice on the Sanguinary ancient to give those SG a 5+FNP.   I'm already spending 1 CP to give the Angel's Wing relic after taking Kurov's Aquila. Not sure if I want to spend that many pregame CP  Swap the wing for the scrolls   I'm assuming DE don't have nasty overwatch I need to worry about avoiding? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/315/#findComment-5054930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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