Chimera Turret Options?

[librisrouge]

It is. Its also the reason, at least in part, that I run an Adamantine Lance now, instead of my usual tank battalion. Pie plates being rendered useless because of invisibility or flying, and the few direct fire weapons being ignored by +2 cover, got boring real fast. The other reason is that knights are sexy

I even sold my two hellhounds in order to afford the third knight.

I once suggested that we try a 500 or 750 point tournament only to be literally shouted down by people that whined that the game doesn't even become fun until 1500 and how, oh god how, would they even field an army at that point level. Afterward they sat around discussing the varied power units they'd field in such an event (FMCs and daemon summoning figured heavily.)

[march10k]

My meta is pretty polarized...there are 5-6 really hardcore WAAC players like librisrouge describes....and then about 10 newbies...only one other guy I can think of is competitive, but not at the expense of fluff or fun, like me.  I usually end up toning down my lists and throwing in some crazy stuff like a chimeraload of ogryns just to give the inexperienced kids a fighting chance....meanwhile, I'm working on a strike squad and a GKL as allies to counter to the $*#@ daemon-cheese that two of the WAACers play...that'll be a rude awakening for them, and just deserts, to boot!  

[librisrouge]

The best part is that I'm almost always in the top three at our store tournaments, fielding list that, while not pushovers at all, are hardly WAAC. I think one player is going to cry if I beat his Centstar again and all of them hate getting into rule debates with me because they mostly play with their wallets instead of brains. That with being behind 3 tournament points from the word go because my army isn't painted (cost me three events so far.) Hell, three tournaments have seen me having to teach players how Stomp, Ion Shields, and D weapons work! You spent $140 on the model, learn its rules!

[march10k]

Ugh...one of the WAAC losers in my store fits that description...hasn't lost a game since November, and hasn't placed anywhere but first in a local tournament in 3 years...but he pays people to paint his daemons, not because he wants them to look good, but because paint scores matter.  He would happily play with naked plastic.  And he doesn't know the rules.  He still tries to foist a mix of 4th-6th (hasn't really learned any 7th edition rules well enough to twist those yet) edition rules, not to mention the odd bit from cityfight, half-remembered, on everyone he plays.  I spend half of my time when I can't avoid playing him arguing over rules...like the time he randomly decreed that his unit of beasts was going to jump off of my skyshield to avoid spending the inches needed to get to ground level...and he was going to take a dangerous terrain test that wounds on ones and twos as a result.  Huh?  Where in the world does it say that?  And these stupid fast beasts were so numerous and so spread out that the only difference the cheating would have made was to increase the overkill on his ensuing charge...wiping the target was never in question!  

 

Overall, though, I'm thankful  that there's only really one flavor of cheese I can't handle (yet...need GK support!), and that's daemons...the riptides, wraithknight/serpent spam, and cron air are all really tough, really unimaginative, yet definitely beatable.  No invisible seer council here, thank god...that's another one I don't have an answer for...especially if they have a baron along for hit'n'run (otherwise I'd just lock them down with armored sentinels and laugh!)

[librisrouge]

No Baron anymore.

 

Thank GW :)

[Nuclear Fridge]

He would happily play with naked plastic. And he doesn't know the rules.

Then he's just in it to crow "Yeah, suckers! I so rock!! You losers lose!!! Woot!!!!" I hate people like that.

Then there's the little issue of his arguing the toss over obsolete rules he only half-knows, and assuming that that gives him the 'Ultimate Win Card' over whoever he's facing. I'd be packing away my models by the third case of him trotting out some such nonsense. Or I'd have punched him in the nose...

[CoffeeGrunt]

Our local MtG meta is full of that, but thankfully there's only one or two players who have that mentality in our 40K meta. One of them is terrible at the game and no-one likes playing him, because you need to add at least an hour to each game to account for his lack of knowledge of the rules causing an extensive rules argument. He held up a pretty casual and fun 6K/3 Player a side Apocalypse game we were having to tell me that Supporting Fire didn't work the way I knew it did, and after 20 minutes of literally reading the rule to him over and over, handing him the book to read, the other four players telling him that yes, that was how it worked, he finally clicked and declared it the most overpowered rule in the game...he plays Crons.

 

The other guy is actually a really cool guy, but always brings nasty power lists. I enjoy playing him though, as it's a chance to take things that I'd normally consider cheesy such as a triple Wyvern squadron, and we have good banter while we play.

[WarriorFish]

As good as it may be to vent about poor opponents this isn't the aim of the topic, back to Chimeras and weaponry please!

[cypherthefallenangel]

I just recently picked up some hydra autocannon bits off of ebay to use for my storm chimeras and i must say they look sharp on them. I used the heavy bolter turret plate to mount the auto cannon which kind of gives it a similar appearance as the predator. When i get home from work tonight I'll take a picture and post it here.

[WarriorFish]

That's a clever idea, it'll be good to see the pictures :tu: Definitely a good use of the spare bits if you're not interested in the Hydra and enough for four Chimeras per Wyvern too!

[librisrouge]

I've been considering converting all of my Chimera turrets to pack Autocannons and then giving them the hull heavy bolter. This gives the tank five shots that can threaten down range and two of which have some kind of anti-armor ability. Spammed (the only way I like my Chimeras) they also have the ability to throw up a lot of flak at flyers.

 

That being said, if you're going for an anti-nid look then consider hull heavy flamers or hull heavy bolters and turret twin heavy bolters. You can always play the twin heavy bolters as a single if you don't want to pay the points (two infantry worth) but either puts out considerable number of anti-light infantry hate that IG would need as gaunts bear down on them.

[WarriorFish]

I agree, hull HBs are a good default as it matches with the turret weapon but if you're up against enough troops some heavy flamers are worth dotting around. I tend to have mine on specialist Chimeras (command squads, Vets) that are more likely to either close on the enemy or have the enemy go after them. Well worth considering if you have horde armies to consider (Orks smell much better once they've been doused in promethium).

[elmo]

I just recently picked up some hydra autocannon bits off of ebay to use for my storm chimeras and i must say they look sharp on them. I used the heavy bolter turret plate to mount the auto cannon which kind of gives it a similar appearance as the predator. When i get home from work tonight I'll take a picture and post it here.

Great idea... Still waiting for the pictures though ;)

[hendrik]

i always pick hull heavy flamers on my chimeras so as to make them assist better when their content spills out to rapid fire something, not to mention that the HB would hardly help in most cases as most foten i find myself aiming the chimera at transports, while the heavy flamer keeps the enemy troops at length

[cypherthefallenangel]

 

I just recently picked up some hydra autocannon bits off of ebay to use for my storm chimeras and i must say they look sharp on them. I used the heavy bolter turret plate to mount the auto cannon which kind of gives it a similar appearance as the predator. When i get home from work tonight I'll take a picture and post it here.

Great idea... Still waiting for the pictures though ;)

Sorry no pics yet. 18hr work day yesterday and had to be in to work really early again today. I'll try again today this afternoon.

[WarriorFish]

We can wait until you have more time, don't work too hard! :P

[elmo]

We can wait until you have more time, don't work too hard!

Nothing can be considered too hard when it is for the glory of The Emperor!

Did the great Commissar Yarrick consider defeating the orcs hard?? He may have but he did it anyway...

It was at Hades Hive that Commissar Yarrick fought his hardest battle, and where he lost his right arm to the snapping battle klaw of an Ork Warboss. Fighting through pain and shock, Yarrick beheaded the Warboss and took that same klaw as his own, a symbol of his defiance against the Orks.

Seriously - whenever you have time post the photos - real life can get in the way sometimes ;)

[cypherthefallenangel]

Alrighty then.

Here is the storm chimera pic i promised. Its still a WIP. With some minor trimming the hydra barrel fits snugly into the heavy bolter turret plate. I like the longer barrel over other GW autocannon barrels I've used. (gw has some horrible scaling issues) i might try these barrels on a custom exterminator turret.

[Marshal Argos]

It's a nice idea but I just have the feeling that it's a bit TOOO long.   Still looks better than the standard GW one though.

[elmo]

Thanks for the picture cypherthefallenangel :)

 

At first glance it looks a little too long but like you say, GW has always had a scale problem - no consistency across models :(

This may also be because I am just used to seeing the FW one.

[WarriorFish]

I think it looks ok, a nice long barrel looks good - a bit more realistic. Maybe removing the circular base bit would be a bit better but I don't think it's too important. Good work!