jacqualine47 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Hi everyone, I was thinking about making a CSM force led by Miriael Sabathiel (Only SoB to ever fall to Chaos - became a champion of Slannesh)... I already know all the lore out there (not much), but was hoping that you guys could help me out with some ideas. I figure the Sisters forum is the place to ask since most people in the CSM forum wouldn't even know who Miriael is. I need a personal symbol for her black crusade (like something to go on her followers' shoulder pads and on Rhino doors) - obviously the Slannesh symbol will be prominent in the army, but this is more like a badge saying "Miriael sent me") The easiest idea I had was to invert a Fleur d'lys - but I wasn't sure if that was enough or if something else should be done to it. I want it to be something that emphasizes that she is mocking the Sisterhood with her dark crusade, but I'm not sure if an inverted Fleur is the way to go. Oh, and just to say - she will be the only actual fallen sister - no other Chaos sisters in the army cause those don't exist and would detract from her fluff. What do you guys think on Miriael's personal army badge? Thanks in advance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297823-miriael-sabathiel-hobby-advice-needed-heresy-inside/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Here's a thought, depending on how 'adult' you want to make it... I can see an inverted fluer de lis becoming corrupted into a form more, shall we say... Organic? And more in keeping with the lord of pleasure's perversion? I think that would make a good point. Like telling the galaxy to stuff it, as it were... I don't want to go too much further and risk the mods thinking I'm being childish. I think it could actually look really effective. You could even be a bit abstract, so people look at it and say "Uh, is that what I think it is?" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297823-miriael-sabathiel-hobby-advice-needed-heresy-inside/#findComment-3830216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Raven Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Using an inverted fleur de lys would be like those who use an inverted cross to thumb their nose at Christianity without realising that's Saint Peter's symbol, who asked to be crucified upside down because he felt he wasn't worthy of sharing Jesus' martyr. I'd suggest the normal fleur de lys with the eight arrows of chaos sticking out from underneath it, precisely to emphasize they were sent by She Who Must Not Be Named to cock a snook at the uptight Adepta Sororitas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297823-miriael-sabathiel-hobby-advice-needed-heresy-inside/#findComment-3830219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templar1 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Purposefully blasphemized imperial iconography. So like... broken aquilas with chaos stars painted over them in blood, or things like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297823-miriael-sabathiel-hobby-advice-needed-heresy-inside/#findComment-3830237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolandTHTG Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 What about modfying the slaanesh symbolhttp://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100730195156/warhammer40k/images/c/c3/Mark_slaanesh.pngand replacing the upper right portion with a fleur?http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Fleur_de_lys_%28or%29.svg/150px-Fleur_de_lys_%28or%29.svg.png Such that it looks like the Fleur is erupting out of the bulb.Or maybe the chaos star, with the upper right spike extended into a fleur, so that it ties visually to the slaanesh symbol? http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130323195529/warhammer40k/images/7/75/MarkofSlaanesh2.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297823-miriael-sabathiel-hobby-advice-needed-heresy-inside/#findComment-3830286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Best place to look would be her original card art. http://wh40k.lexicanum.de/mediawiki/images/c/c3/Miriael.jpg ... oddly, when googling "miriael sabathiel card", two of the results are my avatar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297823-miriael-sabathiel-hobby-advice-needed-heresy-inside/#findComment-3830292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 just a random idea, but what about having an eye on the tip of that center thingy of the fleur? Eye of chaos? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297823-miriael-sabathiel-hobby-advice-needed-heresy-inside/#findComment-3830644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 The fleur represents a sheaf of wheat, by the way. Incidentally. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297823-miriael-sabathiel-hobby-advice-needed-heresy-inside/#findComment-3830683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullr Direfang Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I think there are a lot of options and like has been said, it depends on how you want to go with it. While the "adult" side of things seems like it might go over well, depending on how it was handled, I think sticking to something like the others have said would be best. Something with and upside down symbol, or cross over symbol that would be more fitting in how GW has set up fluff for most heretics. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297823-miriael-sabathiel-hobby-advice-needed-heresy-inside/#findComment-3831603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I think there's more mileage in corrupting the order symbol than the fleur-de-lys. Actually, looking at the card art that isn't Miko's avatar, that seems to be what Sabathiel herself has done, although the stats etc rather obscure the icon she's wearing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297823-miriael-sabathiel-hobby-advice-needed-heresy-inside/#findComment-3831617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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