temneb Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Hey guys. This will be be a diary for my imperial guard build. I've been wanting to do this for ages and, the guy at Madrobot has made that possible by creating his NAM range and making a rifle type on request for me. I can't recommend them him enough. The army will be based on an Australian infantry company from the Vietnam war. Eventually I'll be adding some vehicle models, to represent M113's, Centurian tanks, Huey's Howertzers and US F4 phantom air support. If you any of you are good at scratch builds, I'd be appreciative of any advice. However for now it is just the infantry. Today I'll share my test models as soon as I figure out how to upload photos. Cheers Ben Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297988-oz-vietnam-era-astra-militarum/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
temneb Posted October 15, 2014 Author Share Posted October 15, 2014 http://imgur.com/a/LSTpw Sorry for the crappy picks. Anyone got any ideas on how to create rice paddy grass for the bases? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297988-oz-vietnam-era-astra-militarum/#findComment-3834044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander_Moustache Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Hmm not too bad. As for doing the bases I am not sure. I hear dry tea is good for dead leaves Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297988-oz-vietnam-era-astra-militarum/#findComment-3834088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomanyprojects Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Dried herbs also work well for foliage. I recommend oregano or parsley. They work surprisingly well :) For paddy grass, perhaps brush bristles painted green? It's the only thing I can think of that might work Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297988-oz-vietnam-era-astra-militarum/#findComment-3834095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 The models look great, much better than the ancient Catachan sculpts :) I think brush bristles would work as rice but as I've said before a cheaper source than brushes needs to be found, but I'm not sure where. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297988-oz-vietnam-era-astra-militarum/#findComment-3834104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomanyprojects Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Nail brushes. Same sort of thing and can be bought for about £1 gbp :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297988-oz-vietnam-era-astra-militarum/#findComment-3834166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I'll second Toomanyprojects' recommendation of oregano for leaves. Excellent stuff. Makes models smell so nice too :D For tall grass try cheap brushes from a pound/dollar/hundred-yen store, or check a model railway shop. I got a load of tall grass (about 3" long) very cheap that I cut down to whatever length I need. Not likely to get through it for years. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297988-oz-vietnam-era-astra-militarum/#findComment-3834208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmo Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Another vote for using a cheap (hand/dust pan) brush for the grass. Try to get the one with the natural bristles if you can. You will get hundreds of models out of one brush so well worth the small outlay. And... hmmmm SLRs.... brings back memories (but that is just my age showing ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297988-oz-vietnam-era-astra-militarum/#findComment-3834366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 The old gets us all, but better than the alternative. You serve the Emperor better alive ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297988-oz-vietnam-era-astra-militarum/#findComment-3834933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
temneb Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 Thanks guys. I hadn't thought of a brush. Will get on that. Another vote for using a cheap (hand/dust pan) brush for the grass. Try to get the one with the natural bristles if you can. You will get hundreds of models out of one brush so well worth the small outlay. And... hmmmm SLRs.... brings back memories (but that is just my age showing :)) I missed out on the SLR, was a little dissaponted until I realised the styer was lighter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297988-oz-vietnam-era-astra-militarum/#findComment-3835003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmo Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 But there is something so reassuring about the 7.62mm elephant gun :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297988-oz-vietnam-era-astra-militarum/#findComment-3835046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter h Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Why don't you use ,Rhino's since they loook like M113's. I also believe that your best bet for rice paddy style grass would be at model rr,stores. Tall grass could be from aquarium plastic plants. This an idea that I have had in the back of my mind for years,but I would base it on, Khe Sanh. I like your choice of the madrobot, while I have been checking out ,Victoria Miniatures myself. I will be following your progress, I hope you will provide the motivation. I have been thinking of shelving my current ,Guard to start all over again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297988-oz-vietnam-era-astra-militarum/#findComment-3835158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 That's a great idea walter, using a Rhino will be half the conversion done for you :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297988-oz-vietnam-era-astra-militarum/#findComment-3835165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypherthefallenangel Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Not like i ever had a choice but i would have gladly traded my 5.56 for the heavier 7.62 in a heartbeat, back in the day. In 40k terms its like having the option of a lasgun or a bolter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297988-oz-vietnam-era-astra-militarum/#findComment-3835235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmo Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Why don't you use ,Rhino's since they loook like M113's. Great idea The one outside GW Nottingham is based on an FV432 but they look fairly similar anyway. There is a thread on Dakkadakka discussing using scale models of real AFVs. It might be worth checking out... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297988-oz-vietnam-era-astra-militarum/#findComment-3835246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 But there is something so reassuring about the 7.62mm elephant gun I wouldn't consider 7.62mm enough of an elephant gun but yes - it rocks. Also, back on topic, I was thinking the Valkyrie (if you want to stick to 40K as the base model) might be a conversion option for the Phantom if you can figure out a way to reposition the engines, flip around the wings and make a single tail. As for Howitzers - you already have the Basilisk, that just needs a new gun emplacement base (or get the static Forge World ones). As weird as it sounds - the Storm Raven could make a Huey. Just leave its sides open and replace its turret with a Rotary. Could also use its tail for the Phantom. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297988-oz-vietnam-era-astra-militarum/#findComment-3835252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
temneb Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 Why don't you use ,Rhino's since they loook like M113's. I also believe that your best bet for rice paddy style grass would be at model rr,stores. Tall grass could be from aquarium plastic plants. This an idea that I have had in the back of my mind for years,but I would base it on, Khe Sanh. I like your choice of the madrobot, while I have been checking out ,Victoria Miniatures myself. I will be following your progress, I hope you will provide the motivation. I have been thinking of shelving my current ,Guard to start all over again. I was taking to Victoria Miniatures just as Madrobot released the NAM range, she was open to creating some options to help me out. Have a look at the madrobot range, though just the helmet heads from the NAM range would be a nice touch for such a force. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297988-oz-vietnam-era-astra-militarum/#findComment-3835561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
temneb Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 Also, back on topic, I was thinking the Valkyrie (if you want to stick to 40K as the base model) might be a conversion option for the Phantom if you can figure out a way to reposition the engines, flip around the wings and make a single tail. As for Howitzers - you already have the Basilisk, that just needs a new gun emplacement base (or get the static Forge World ones). As weird as it sounds - the Storm Raven could make a Huey. Just leave its sides open and replace its turret with a Rotary. Could also use its tail for the Phantom. I'd thought fleetingly about the valk as a Phantom, it's got the bent wings already. I'll put a bit more thought into it. Rhino as M113 won't require to much work, I agree. I'm a little bit dubious of the storm raven though, I'll have a look at it though, it would be welcome to save me some work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297988-oz-vietnam-era-astra-militarum/#findComment-3835596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter h Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 { valk as a Phantom, it's got the bent wings already. I'll put a bit more thought into it. Rhino as M113 won't require to much work, ] I think the ,forgive me for this"Ork Fighta Bomba", as a better choice for the ,Phantom. Put a nosecone on,and add to the wing,to change the geometry. The tail would be fairly easy to adapt. The ,Valk would be great as a , Vendetta,( Spectre), or Spooky, Puff. I was wondering if I would be able to use the turrets from the firestorm in the ,Valk, for my, Spectre. The pilots and canopy for the ,Ork fb, would be difficult as well. Oh, and it only be a single turret on one side, for my Spectre. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297988-oz-vietnam-era-astra-militarum/#findComment-3836220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 { valk as a Phantom, it's got the bent wings already. I'll put a bit more thought into it. Rhino as M113 won't require to much work, ] I think the ,forgive me for this"Ork Fighta Bomba", as a better choice for the ,Phantom. Put a nosecone on,and add to the wing,to change the geometry. The tail would be fairly easy to adapt. The ,Valk would be great as a , Vendetta,( Spectre), or Spooky, Puff. I was wondering if I would be able to use the turrets from the firestorm in the ,Valk, for my, Spectre. The pilots and canopy for the ,Ork fb, would be difficult as well. Oh, and it only be a single turret on one side, for my Spectre. Actually, those Ork Fighters could also look like the old Mig-17s lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297988-oz-vietnam-era-astra-militarum/#findComment-3836360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Argos Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 { valk as a Phantom, it's got the bent wings already. I'll put a bit more thought into it. Rhino as M113 won't require to much work, ] I think the ,forgive me for this"Ork Fighta Bomba", as a better choice for the ,Phantom. Put a nosecone on,and add to the wing,to change the geometry. The tail would be fairly easy to adapt. The ,Valk would be great as a , Vendetta,( Spectre), or Spooky, Puff. I was wondering if I would be able to use the turrets from the firestorm in the ,Valk, for my, Spectre. The pilots and canopy for the ,Ork fb, would be difficult as well. Oh, and it only be a single turret on one side, for my Spectre. Actually, those Ork Fighters could also look like the old Mig-17s lol. Actually I've seen quite a few conversions of this on the Internet. Like these below: First is from Dakka Dakka "http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/496637-.html" http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2013/5/16/496637_md-Bomber,%20Flyer,%20Imperial%20Guard,%20Looted,%20Ork%20Abuse,%20Orks.jpg The 2nd is also from Dakka Dakka http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/8/16/402180_md-Bomber,%20Conversion,%20Dakka%20Jet,%20Fighter,%20Modification,%20Swing%20Wing,%20Swing%20Wing%20Dakka%20Jet%20Swing%20Wing%20%20Fighter%20Bomber.jpg @ temneb Check out "The Assault Group" the make same pretty nice heads as well. But more importantly they make US Vietnam era Kit. Rucks, Ammo Pouches, etc... etc... I've used their Rucks on my IG as well as some of their heads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297988-oz-vietnam-era-astra-militarum/#findComment-3837133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 That's a good conversion, completely de-Orked! These mods are even better due to the fact it's the looting of Ork vehicles :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297988-oz-vietnam-era-astra-militarum/#findComment-3837147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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