Slips Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 OH MY GOD! With Iron Warriors, you can take Heavy Support Squads as troops. I just made a list with 4 10 mans as troops and 3 10 mans as Heavy support all with Volkite Culverins and all with Augury Scanners. +3 Masters of Signal. 70. Volkite. Culverin. Equipped. Troops. ...Thats a potential 280 Volkite Shots. 3 of which will be at BS5. I also gave all the Squads Hardened armor. For mobility you could give them all Rhinos too if you either cut Hardened Armor and Artificer armor on the Sarges. ...Granted this is at 3k points flush. All but 1 squad has Melta Bombs too, just in case. Then again, I'm not sure if the HS in troops count as compulsory selections. This may cut down on the volkite spam a bit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 OH MY GOD! With Iron Warriors, you can take Heavy Support Squads as troops. I just made a list with 4 10 mans as troops and 3 10 mans as Heavy support all with Volkite Culverins and all with Augury Scanners. +3 Masters of Signal. 70. Volkite. Culverin. Equipped. Troops. ...Thats a potential 280 Volkite Shots. 3 of which will be at BS5. I also gave all the Squads Hardened armor. For mobility you could give them all Rhinos too if you either cut Hardened Armor and Artificer armor on the Sarges. ...Granted this is at 3k points flush. All but 1 squad has Melta Bombs too, just in case. Then again, I'm not sure if the HS in troops count as compulsory selections. This may cut down on the volkite spam a bit... VOLKITES FOR TEH VOLKITE GOD!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Wait what you can take heavy support squads as troops for IWs??? You must share this beautiful information with me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naryn Posted October 20, 2014 Author Share Posted October 20, 2014 Where are you seeing the Heavy Support as troops? Is it in LACAL? I can't find it in HH3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 If it's for real holy cow IWs just got a big old space jam slam dunk of a buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Well, I could be entirely wrong and might be an error that I have to inform Millicant of; but when I chose Iron Warriors Legion rules in Battlescribe, Heavy Support squads were moved to Troops as well as heavy support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Could you confirm with him? Because if this isn’t a typo and is a footnote in an FAQ somewhere, it would be big news for IW players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisdudeness Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I have just re-read every page of the LACAL on the IW and see no place where is says HS squads can be taken as troops. not the RoW, not the characters, not the Bossman... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 There we go! time to go tell Millicant! BRB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Teeth Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Iron Warriors may not be able to... but Death Guard can take HS squads as non compulsory Troops with their Rote of War... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Thing is I didn't take a RoW since all my HQ were Masters of Signal and the IW entry is pretty far from DG to make that kind of a mistake :p But, given that you can do it with the DG RoW.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazarak Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Everyone on this thread is drunk. I kind of love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Everyone on this thread is drunk. I kind of love it. "I'm not as think as you drunk am occifer!" *ahem* Iron warriors only get an extra HS slot, whereas Death Gaurd taking the reaping RoW can take heavy weapon and veteran squads as non mandatory troops choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Alright, problem solved. List is with Death Guard RoW, and only 5 Heavy Support Squads with Volkites Culverins and 2 (potentially) minimum sized Tac Squads. Unless there are more than 4 troops slots. Sooooo...200 Volkite Culverin Shots either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FashaTheDog Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I'm sorry, I cannot hear the original question over the sound of all the Martian death rays... +++Glorious music of the Omnissiah, be praised+++ As for tanks. Land Raider Proteus are only 200 points. That ~50 point discount is huge. In a 2,000 point list taking a squadron of three is a mere 600 points of all round AV14 fun. Not a bad investment for the points you spend. If you have Predators you can sandwich them between the Land Raiders so their side armor never is shown to the enemy if that side armor really worries you. The middle Land Raider behind the Predators could even be an Achilles if you really like this and have 100 spare points so you can Machine Spirit the quad mortar into some poor target and not bother with silly things like LoS. You could conceivably run a half dozen or so Proteus and still have a strong 2,000 point list. That kind of spamming of AV14 is hard for many armies to deal with, although some won't even notice their flaming wrecks, but it is a fun thought to throw that kind of armored might, especially if you take the Rite of War that makes them dedicated transports. Then there is the possibility of running four Spartans each with a flare shield and armored ceramite, a Praetor, and three ten strong Tactical Squads all for a measly 1,910 points. I mean a little excessive perhaps, but some list will have absolutely no possible way to deal with this while others might call it an easy win (beware lance and haywire). Although swapping out a Spartan for a Typhon with armored ceramite and downgrading the Praetor to a Centurion (net gain of 20 points) might be a better idea here. While on the Spartan spam (spam is relative here) a variant of the aforementioned would be three Spartans with the flare shield and armored ceramite, three ten strong Tactical Squads, a Centurion, and then to really worry most people, add a Primarch. I personally prefer Perturabo and Night Haunter (although the latter is jump infantry so I don't think he can ride) as my Primarchs of choice, but really any Primarch of 530 points or less will work here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Well, if you want a clown car list, have I got the thing for you! It only has 3 Spartans and 3 Contemptors, but hey, 66 angry marines with extra CCWs... http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295668-murderface-a-slipstream-list-named-by-depthcharge/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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