Zynk Kaladin Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 I liked Wings on Meph because I could easily maneuver him to get cover saves in between units, into cover, or out of LoS. Personally, Wings was a lot more flexible and useful than many of the Biomancy powers, strong as they are. Side note: Wings Meph was great backed up by jump pack ASM because I could hide him amongst the unit to get him a cover save. I kind of miss the days of the 4+ FNP with an assault squad and Meph. That was fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298305-new-dex-troop-choice-speculation/page/2/#findComment-3843388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I'd take a mobile Mephiston with the Smash rule happily. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298305-new-dex-troop-choice-speculation/page/2/#findComment-3843607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 You wouldn't be able to give him both biomancy and wings, you have to take all powers from either the dex or the brb, not both. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298305-new-dex-troop-choice-speculation/page/2/#findComment-3843671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pascalnz Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 that's not how that works. you can take powers from any source, there are no longer any "choose from book" powers. you could take a space wolf one a biomancy and a divination if you wanted too.. you just wouldn't get a free primaris Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298305-new-dex-troop-choice-speculation/page/2/#findComment-3843736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 BA can take SW powers? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298305-new-dex-troop-choice-speculation/page/2/#findComment-3843756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartali Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Forgive me but I've forgotten - did SW get their own psychic table? Part of me actually hopes we don't get wings!? Because then mephiston would be probably too tempting. Dangerous because there are more high-strength weapons and instant death shenannigans out there than ever before. And we just know he aint gonna get EW, ever. Space Wolves did indeed get their own Psychic table, with some of their older powers included. Jaws is there, albeit in a very weakened form. Slightly of topic, but BA can generate a fair amount of warp charges - 11 as it currently stands, It'll be interesting to see what we can do with them in the new codex Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298305-new-dex-troop-choice-speculation/page/2/#findComment-3843883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Forgive me but I've forgotten - did SW get their own psychic table? Part of me actually hopes we don't get wings!? Because then mephiston kwould be probably too tempting. Dangerous because there are more high-strength weapons and instant death shenannigans out there than ever before. And we just know he aint gonna get EW, ever. Space Wolves did indeed get their own Psychic table, with some of their older powers included. Jaws is there, albeit in a very weakened form. Slightly of topic, but BA can generate a fair amount of warp charges - 11 as it currently stands, It'll be interesting to see what we can do with them in the new codex It would really be something if Furioso librarians get a power or three of their own too, as biomancy is not so hot for them. Something like instead of +3T and +3S, they get +1 AV all round and / or a 5+ invul. Surely the psyker would adapt his talents from flesh to metal, over time at least? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298305-new-dex-troop-choice-speculation/page/2/#findComment-3843944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynk Kaladin Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 To be honest, I kind of miss Wings on libby dreads. I would run him with Wings and Shield around some JP ASM for that 5+ fast moving invuln. bubble. The libby dread itself wasn't exactly a stellar performer, but just leave it up to the bloodline of Sanguinius to make a walking, 20 ton sarcophagus of vengeance FLY. Adorable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298305-new-dex-troop-choice-speculation/page/2/#findComment-3843963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quozzo Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Forgive me but I've forgotten - did SW get their own psychic table? Part of me actually hopes we don't get wings!? Because then mephiston would be probably too tempting. Dangerous because there are more high-strength weapons and instant death shenannigans out there than ever before. And we just know he aint gonna get EW, ever. If Meph doesnt get wings he should at least get a jump pack like every other BA IC/libby out there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298305-new-dex-troop-choice-speculation/page/2/#findComment-3846500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yncarne Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 In Codex: Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels, Stormraven flies on Mephiston! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298305-new-dex-troop-choice-speculation/page/2/#findComment-3846844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Frankly, if any of the variant Space Marine codices could get a special psychic deck, it would be the Blood Angels. Between their pseudo-vampiric abilities, their sheer fury, and their focus of fire, heat, and inspiring fear in the hearts of their enemies, there's no reason to assume that the Blood Angels have the same relationship to the Warp as the other Space Marine codices. Of course, there's no reason to assume that they don't. I'm just saying that I could see them having their own psychic powers... and I kind of hope they do. Not because they "need" them or anything, but because it would be fun! I mean, come on... a lot of the old Blood Angels powers - forcing fear on your enemies, psychic jump packs, stuff like that - were really fun. It'd be nice to get those back, but updated to 7th edition. And like I said, I think it is a valid interpretation of the fluff, if not the only valid interpretation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298305-new-dex-troop-choice-speculation/page/2/#findComment-3846891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I think we'll see unique BA powers, but not like the 5th ed codex. After all, everything but 'wings' were taken more or less unchanged and made part of the 6th and 7th ed psychic powers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298305-new-dex-troop-choice-speculation/page/2/#findComment-3846902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I think we'll see unique BA powers, but not like the 5th ed codex. After all, everything but 'wings' were taken more or less unchanged and made part of the 6th and 7th ed psychic powers. Though, that said, because of the Psychic Focus rule, getting some cool and stylish powers crammed into one Discipline has a benefit all its own, even if those powers aren't unique. I mean... I'd use a discipline that gave me a chance at an attack power, a movement power, and some kind of Leadership-based debuff. Wouldn't you? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298305-new-dex-troop-choice-speculation/page/2/#findComment-3846905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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