Castiel Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I've finally settled on Alpha Legion for my 2nd 30k Army and I'm planning on building the following list. The theme is an ambush force of Alpha Legion, dug in and hidden, waiting for enemy forces to pas through their ambuscade. Here's the list: Alpharius 415 Vigilator with artificer armour, power dagger, bolter with banestrike and refractor field. 115 3x Tactical squad (10 man) with power dagger, artificer armour. Mounted in Rhinos. 600 Headhunter Kill Team (10 man) with artificer armour, 9x banestrike ccombi-bolters and banestrike heavy bolter. 365 Sky Hunter Squadron with Sergeant and multi-melta. 160 Sicarian Battle Tank 135 Sicaria Venator with armoured ceramite 210 Including Alpharius because at 2000pts everyone in my meta will field a primarch, and his rules will be really useful for helping to get the Alpha Strike in this list. The Vigilator and headhunters deploy near their target using infltrate. The tac squads and their rhinos either infiltrate or outflank. The venator takes care of tanks and armoured targets, while the Sicarian takes care of light vehicles. The Skyhunters roam around picking off targets of opportunity. Alpharius pops up in one of the squads, which squad is mission dependant. Any thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299411-ambush-cadre-sigma-2000pt-alpha-legion-ist/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Honestly, everything looks fine but, Flyers. A Sicarian can deal with them but its not a dedicated unit. How will you deal with them? Unless you know none will be fielded. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299411-ambush-cadre-sigma-2000pt-alpha-legion-ist/#findComment-3865256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 Yeah, flyers aren't really used here. If I found I was facing them regularly I would probably swap the Sicarian for a mortis dread with autocannons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299411-ambush-cadre-sigma-2000pt-alpha-legion-ist/#findComment-3865313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I'd look into better anti armor. At 2000 points you have just a Venator and if you are a lucky a Sicaran to deal with enemy armor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299411-ambush-cadre-sigma-2000pt-alpha-legion-ist/#findComment-3865793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 I also have the multi-melta on the skyhunters and Alpharius, which I was hoping would be enough. Not sure where I could find the points for more anti-armour, any suggestions? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299411-ambush-cadre-sigma-2000pt-alpha-legion-ist/#findComment-3865965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpiousSmart Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Maybe drop 5 of the headhunters? They would still be a threat at only 5, and you should have enough for a Whirlwind or maybe even a Morris? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299411-ambush-cadre-sigma-2000pt-alpha-legion-ist/#findComment-3866816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 Maybe drop 5 of the headhunters? They would still be a threat at only 5, and you should have enough for a Whirlwind or maybe even a Morris? I could do that, although I quite like the large squad it isn't vital I suppose. Wish you could get Las predators in 30k... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299411-ambush-cadre-sigma-2000pt-alpha-legion-ist/#findComment-3867405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 But...but..we've got Plasma Predators...why would you want typical lascannon preds???? :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299411-ambush-cadre-sigma-2000pt-alpha-legion-ist/#findComment-3867465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 But...but..we've got Plasma Predators...why would you want typical lascannon preds???? Coz they can actually damage Land Raiders and Spartans and have better range? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299411-ambush-cadre-sigma-2000pt-alpha-legion-ist/#findComment-3867564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Look, if you're using Predators to kill Spartans : http://doubleyourfreelancing.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/youre-going-to-have-a-bad-time.png Not impossible to do but...yeah, picture sums it up. Venator or Grav Rapiers are you're best bet. Which is why I say use the Predator Executioner since ITS THE ONLY NON-TITAN PLASMA WEAPON WITHOUT GETS HOT (that doesn't belong to blue commie weeabos or those technophiles in red...) :p If you want to make a Pride of the Legion List / Terminator Wing cry, look no further. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299411-ambush-cadre-sigma-2000pt-alpha-legion-ist/#findComment-3867578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 Look, if you're using Predators to kill Spartans : Not impossible to do but...yeah, picture sums it up. Venator or Grav Rapiers are you're best bet. Which is why I say use the Predator Executioner since ITS THE ONLY NON-TITAN PLASMA WEAPON WITHOUT GETS HOT (that doesn't belong to blue commie weeabos or those technophiles in red...) If you want to make a Pride of the Legion List / Terminator Wing cry, look no further. I was going to use a Venator and the Predator to kill the Spartan :P AV 14 is the only thing that I'd have trouble with, so I was hoping to get more s9 or 10 weaponry into the mix. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299411-ambush-cadre-sigma-2000pt-alpha-legion-ist/#findComment-3867588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Well, if you can get non-front arc shots off at it the it wont be much of a hassle. If not that flare shield will severely weaken the threat of anything that isnt D or S10 (non-blast) because of that -2S to templates and -1 Regularly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299411-ambush-cadre-sigma-2000pt-alpha-legion-ist/#findComment-3867680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 Yeah, its getting enough effective fire into the thing that is the hard part. If it has armoured ceramite melta weapons are practically useless as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299411-ambush-cadre-sigma-2000pt-alpha-legion-ist/#findComment-3870350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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