Cerbero666 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Imperial naming conventions are difficult to pin down, but the most unusual thing I've noticed is just how few Anglo-Saxon and Biblical names there are. You don't see a lot of Johns, James', Or Davids. Thankfully, you don't see many American names either, because I don't know how seriously I could take Admiral Jalen, Guardsmen North West, or Canoness Apple. I know what you mean, I can't take seriously a Raven Guard named Agapito...Is an unusual name, and kind of a joke name around here. Partly because "pito" is a colloquial synonym to penis so... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3909341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormborn Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Imperial naming conventions are difficult to pin down, but the most unusual thing I've noticed is just how few Anglo-Saxon and Biblical names there are. You don't see a lot of Johns, James', Or Davids. Thankfully, you don't see many American names either, because I don't know how seriously I could take Admiral Jalen, Guardsmen North West, or Canoness Apple. for the record, Jalen, North West and Apple are hardly common enough to be called North American names. they are purely the creation of few egocentric individuals with more money than sense. WLK Legionary Bryce Johnson of the Night Lords Legion always felt like he should've moved to Nova Hollywood to pursue his music career. Disappointed by being forced to join the VIII Legion, and hating how his adoptive Primarch father wanted him to become a psychopathic murderer like all his other brothers, decidedly stayed loyal after the events of Isstvan V. He no longer speaks to his father or siblings, saying nonsensical things like 'they wouldn't let him grow as a being' and 'he felt like he was drowning in bourgeois life' to the Terran Investigators during his detention. Could be worse, could have been Moon Unit or Dweezil. Pretty sure they didn't make it off Istvaan 3. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3909403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 American Hollywood names? Hell, I'm more worried about the internet. Captain Doge Moon-Moon of the XVI reporting for duty, sir! Like the legendary Leeroy Jenkins did he charge . . . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3909411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Recruit where are you from? Australia sir! What's your name? Bazza sir! Allright son you are now Bazza of the xth legion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3909428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I'd say the Blood Angels are more renaissance Italian rather than Ancient Roman although in the case of the Legions since there's Terrans everywhere they're all fair game Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3909436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc warhammer Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 not so sure about the scars- some names sound chinese/mandarin to me. so a mix of chinese and mongol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3909715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 · Hidden by Brother-Chaplain Kage, January 10, 2015 - Off topic Hidden by Brother-Chaplain Kage, January 10, 2015 - Off topic American Hollywood names? Hell, I'm more worried about the internet. Captain Doge Moon-Moon of the XVI reporting for duty, sir! Like the legendary Leeroy Jenkins did he charge . . . ....Thats a great idea for a Suicide Legion Champion: Captain Leeroy Jenkins Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3909858
Theredknight Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I know it's post heresey. But..storm wardens are Scottish space marines.. Yep google it. So Australian ones are actually possible! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3909964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Operative Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 Iron hands do seem to have a few regal names dotted about in them, for example: Amadeus, Ignatius, Gabriel and Septus. Although I know Gabriel is a Hebrew name with obvious biblical origin, Ignatius was also a Christian Saint, Amadeus has Latin origin and Septus could be a slight change on the Latin word "Septum" which is now used in biology to denote tissues which seems to be a joke seeing as the name is born by an Iron Hand (A morlock veteran no less). Or Septus could be a shortening of the Latin name "Septimus". But my point is: where is the link and what do I class them as, or should I just add: Hebrew and Latin? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3910048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Operative Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 Also what did we decide upon for Night Lords Names? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3910070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 White middle class Americans. It's makes their stories go from scary to hilarious. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3910089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Terran Night Lords were recruited from the Biggest Terran Prison so I'd say anything goes since there would be criminals from all walks of life in that lightless pit. For Nostromans (is...is that how you say it?) I'd go with w/e with a slight Latin/Persian twist, maybe? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3910131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Operative Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 Thanks Slipstreams and EVERYONE who so far has contributed! Now All we need to do is fill in the few remaining gaps. Also if anyone has managed to identify prefixes and suffixes then please post them too. Thanks, Operative Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3910189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 For the Sons Of Horus, I think we can go with some Nordic and some Hebrew; mostly due to Loken (Nordic) and Ezekyle Abaddon (Hebrew). But we also have Egyptian (Horus; pretty obvious, lol), Middle Eastern with Tarik though his Last Name is Torgaddon and we have Aximand, Maloghurst, Falkus Kibre, Iacton Qruze and a bunch of others; just as varied. Though, in Lokens case, his First Name is Garviel which is pretty close to Gabriel. For the World Eaters, just be creative with nouns about Carnage (Khârn), Anger (Angron) and things to that effect :P On a more serious note, I wouldn't know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3910201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I think they've kindof just picked names as and when they needed to for characters as opposed to setting out any kind of naming conventions for most of the legions. Some there is a general theme, White Scars generally have Asian sounding names, Thousand Sons are Egyptian/Middle Eastern, but most of the legions are just a mishmash of names. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3910237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arac Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I always connected the Word Bearers with some kind of old persian, mesopotamian stuff. Also some plain evil sounding names (*mustache twirl*) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3911114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Calas - Portugese? Spanish? French? Ignatius - Spanish? Latin? Nathaniel - Hebrew? Garro - French? Spanish? Ullis - German? Russian? Solon - Greek? Decius - Roman? Durak - Czech? Meric - Welsh? English? German? Voyen - German? Khorak - Indian? Middle Eastern? Hakur - Russian? Middle Eastern? Indian? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3912305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstoe Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Ingo Pech and Herzog are for sure german names, the first one means either bad luck or the sticky juice of trees in English, the second is a title like prince or baron. And Ingo is a usual german name. But it's the Alpha Legion, so they seem to be from everywhere or nowhere. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3912966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Never hear of marines called Paul or Peter or John and other generic western names do you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3912989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Never hear of marines called Paul or Peter or John and other generic western names do you. As much as I am likened and familiar with those names, it is somewhat gratifying to see different nonsensical ones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3913092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 · Hidden by Brother-Chaplain Kage, January 10, 2015 - Off topic Hidden by Brother-Chaplain Kage, January 10, 2015 - Off topic American Hollywood names? Hell, I'm more worried about the internet. Captain Doge Moon-Moon of the XVI reporting for duty, sir! "Wow. Much lodge. So Chaos. Very false Emperor. Much burning galaxy. Wow!" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3913182
Huggtand Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 "Wow. Much lodge. So Chaos. Very false Emperor. Much burning galaxy. Wow!" Oh noooo Now I have Family Guy Shatner as Horus in my mind. Get it out Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3913643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdT Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 FWIW, the naming conventions I've previously used are the following; its not exclusive by any means, but hopefully the links and examples are food for thought! I Legion: Angelic names, Arthurian names, plus anything from the various other knightly myths. So, Uriel, Cogreavance, Roland, etc.III Legion: Byzantine names with a few Armenian bits thrown in. So, Milo Sagetelian, Nero Skeuopoios, etc.IV Legion: I haven't done any IV Legion yet, but I'd have thought a pretty eclectic mix with a vague Greek feel and losts of short hard-sounding names. Perhaps not Classical Greek though as that's a bit overused; Mycenaean perhaps or Minoan? So Glaukos Karst, or Onit Beniah, etc. V Legion: Mongols all the way, ideally with names that match their character somehow. Some Chinese and other Turkic names in the mix wouldn't be bad either. So Khulan, Ochigin etc. VI Legion: Vikings, with a proper epithet. So Runolf Halftroll, Steinn Kraka, etc. VII Legion: Frankish, Lombard and Visigothic names with other eclectic ones thrown into the mix to demonstrate the Legion's diversity. So, Ekhard Berenger, Salvador Chang, Ludolf Harz, and the like. VIII Legion: I've never been able to work out the Night Lords at all so I'll skip this one... IX Legion: Angelic names, as above, mixed in with Shakespearean character names and Renaissance Italians. The use of an Angelic name seems to happen as a title. So, Ilya Mercutio (known as Apsinthiel), or Bassanio Palamon, (known as Nuriel).X Legion: All sorts, a bit like the Iron Warriors, but with a decidedly Hebrew bent. So Imit Basarab, or Avram Kal, etc.XII Legion: Given the World Eaters come from all over, I went for the names of aggressive dogs but in a variety of different languages, combined with a hard-sounding forename. So, Olev Molossus, Vikram, Svana, etc.XIII Legion: Got to be Roman, surely? Nice and easy. XIV Legion: No single rule here; I went for short, hard sounding names. Turkish ones were particularly useful. So, Durak Gorgal, Gulen Ertug, etc. XV: Egyptian yes, but also Zoroastrian, to show the Legion's recruitment from modern Iran. So, Manush Vifranavaz, Neferhotep, Khamose, etc.XVI: Semitic names, particularly Punic, Phoenician and Hittite. So, Hamilcar Bast, Lev Abakhol, etc. XVII: Colchis clearly has a thing for single syllable names (ie Kor, Kal, Tal) so I combine that with either a Middle Eastern Diety or a Demon (often these end up being the same thing). So, Kol Moloch, Bel Shadrak, etc. XVIII: A weird mix of Zoroastrian and Zulu seems to work quite well, just with apostophes thrown in; so Zarin, R'ushna, H'shedar, etc. XIX: I never worked this one out, but for Terran Ravens I quite liked Maori names that could also pass as Asian if you squinted. XX: Alpharius, obviously. Beyond that, anything goes, but I quite liked Boer and Russian names for some reason. So, Reno Petrus, Leonid Tenko, etc... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3913830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Imperial fists sound rather Germanic after taking german I mean come on sigsimund sounds rather german to me. Blood angels are very Renaissance Italy and actually and have some well I mean eastern nameslike Amit which is Hindi, Hebrew, Bengali, and Marathi. Another example is our high warden Dakha Berun. Dhaka is the oldest city in Bangladesh. Though they are definitely more Renaissance Italian especially after the heresy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3914670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xin Ceithan Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I really like EdT's summary. On VIII (A) nostraman, sing.; nostramanii, pl. (B) While a lot of names in the novels sound harsh (Sevatar, Xarl), I always imagine Nostroman lingo melodic in sound and oddly beautiful descriptive: rather "the sea of thought" literally translating something like (Brain) liquor fluid. Namewise, I personally go for mediterean, slavic and asian and estrange the spelling - since I often imagine pre-Curze Nostramo culture with structures from Mafia, Russian Mob and Yakuzza. This would work itself into legionary names as well with their Legion (non birth) names from gang Tags, self aggrandizing descriptiond and nicknames or derigatory slander when translated to low gothic ("Four Fingers", "Hatebringer", "Catsqueal","Eater of Hearts" - you get the idea) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301406-where-do-the-names-for-legion-members-originate-from/page/2/#findComment-3914783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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