Frostmourne Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Morning/ Evening gentsAfter picking up Book 4, and reading through the Rules for these guys, i am really happy that i can finally put a human element to my Elite Ultramarine force. I like to see some Variety in my army. So, whats a good way to spend... say 500 points in Solar Auxilia to go with a Pride of the Legion style force. Either a Lord Marshal in a Storm Section inside a Dracosan, And maybe some Leman Russ Support. Or go with some Bodies (I dont want meatshield, as i hate the waste involved) behind some Aegis lines and a decent Command Chain, with some Leman Russ Support? Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Get some Charonite Ogryns. Profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostmourne Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Haha they are Awesome, no doubt, but i just dont see me using them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakuth Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 It'd cost a bit more than 500 points, but howabout a tank commander (can be taken as mandatory HQ if not primary detachment), stick him in a Russ or Malcador varient (I'd suggest the Valdor if you're light on anti-tank), and a storm section in Dracosan? Nice punchy armoured force. It would also fit an elite-style army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaborerDNA Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 If you want to use Auxilia with your Ultramarines force, you should change your RoW. One of the limitations of Pride is that you can't take allied detachment. Also, regarding the topic, I'd take Storm Section as they're cheaper than Astartes equivalent, but dish out the same anount of firepower. And use them the same way as tactical support squad. Also lasrifle section with aegis(as you can take one per section) for home scoring and maybe an artillery piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostmourne Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 That's a very good point. Well played and made haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Something I like using Solar Auxilia with are those Rites of War which prevent Fortifications from being selected; their Special Fortificaitons still allows reasonably cheap access to Comms Relays for the reroll without interfering with the legion forces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanct Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Also, regarding the topic, I'd take Storm Section as they're cheaper than Astartes equivalent, but dish out the same amount of firepower. And use them the same way as tactical support squad. I'd stick with the regular lasrifle section with blast chargers or rapier multilasers. Bit more versatile but so many wounds to last the match despite the lowered bs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaborerDNA Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Also, regarding the topic, I'd take Storm Section as they're cheaper than Astartes equivalent, but dish out the same amount of firepower. And use them the same way as tactical support squad. I'd stick with the regular lasrifle section with blast chargers or rapier multilasers. Bit more versatile but so many wounds to last the match despite the lowered bs. Yeah, Lasrifle section with their str6 upgrade becomes really versatile. I just enjoy shooting pew-pew martian rayguns) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Also, regarding the topic, I'd take Storm Section as they're cheaper than Astartes equivalent, but dish out the same amount of firepower. And use them the same way as tactical support squad. I'd stick with the regular lasrifle section with blast chargers or rapier multilasers. Bit more versatile but so many wounds to last the match despite the lowered bs.Yeah, Lasrifle section with their str6 upgrade becomes really versatile. I just enjoy shooting pew-pew martian rayguns) Actually I was running numbers, and the upgrade doesn't kill more MEQs than double tapping or using the collimator. The only time it's remotely useful is against high toughness models like the AdMech. And even then, you're only stripping off 1-2 wounds on something like the Castellax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun03 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Something I like using Solar Auxilia with are those Rites of War which prevent Fortifications from being selected; their Special Fortificaitons still allows reasonably cheap access to Comms Relays for the reroll without interfering with the legion forces. Finished up reading book 4 and brought this up, and it was shot down, as the special fortifications rule only applies to your primary detachment, not allied detachments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Argh, missed the primary detachment bit. Well that's poo. The sooner Forge World get rid of this atrocious Age of Darkness rules system and go to 7th edition the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun03 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I had to go back and read it, than do the walk of shame and tell the rule lawyers they were correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 How are solar auxilia antitank? I was wondering becuase I'm planning night lords and the big problem is anti tank. I was either thinking solar auxilia or mechanicus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Command Squads and enginseer squads can get Tempest Grenade Launchers which have Haywire shots. They have very little access to Melta. In regards to tanks; most are blast, and LR Vanquishers are underpowered and even more expensive than 40k. If you were using Lords of War then a case could be made for a Stormhammer which can point up to 4 Lascannons, 2 Shot TL Battlecannons and its main gun at the target, while others bring Strength D plus a Lascannon or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun03 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 The ventilator can be useful for anit tank it cost 60meltabombs and take tabk command as your allied HQ with his ruled they up to BS4 and pick tank hunter, it's mid range but can beat just about any tank out there, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 like a Sicatan Venator can for 2/3 the points? Not sold and the SH chassis doesn't really make up for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun03 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Yeah Sciran is better option but guard don't have it In 30k I like haywire over melta, so trying spam as much as you can could help. But what ROW u running with NL? This could offer some insight as what you need guard to do because if you going with there unquie ROW than infiltrating 3 terror sq make one for AT, also going pie plate heavy with infiltraing forvr could backfire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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