jeremy1391 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 WoT as per the 7th edition rule book "sniper" on a model OR weapon confers precision shot, wounding on 4+, and ap2 on a wound roll of 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanct Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Sniper only gives you precision shot and always wounds on 4s, it no longer gives you rending, the weapon itself has to be sniper to get a weaker form of rending now. At least that was how I perceived the wording. If having sniper really does make even your wound rolls of 6 become ap2 then that would be good, I'm just not sure. The qualifier of each one says "If a weapon has the Sniper special rule, or is fired by a model with the Sniper special rule...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 New idea: Five Vets. in a Rhino with an attached Navigator outflanking. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 5 Man recon squad does it better; Infiltrate, Scout Move and has acute senses if they outflank badly. Of course, can't assault as well with only 1 attack, and shooting is slightly less, but you aren't taking such a cheap squad for their shooting prowess with 5 bolters. As to that use of the squad? It will work maybe once. I wouldn't have thought it especially competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Vets can take land raiders as dedicated transports when doing the armored spearhead rite of war right? Outflanking land raiders (vet tactics) carrying vets might be funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defl0 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 60 bodies for 1700 points? If you really wanted that many bodies, tacticals get you there for just 750, leaving ~1000 to spend on more point effective units. Vets are better than tacticals, but they cost more and will die just the same. It's not about the bodies but 60 melta bombs... Let that sink in. And they are fearless and have fleet and have some axes sprinkled into every squad. Most armies I run into have easily half their points in tanks/castellax/dreads/knights/etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 the flaw is having to get to melee. Consider the plethora of anti marine blast weapons in 30k (scorpius, medusa, vindicator, plasma deredeo, basilisk etc..) and then consider the best tanks have armoured ceramite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 the flaw is having to get to melee. Consider the plethora of anti marine blast weapons in 30k (scorpius, medusa, vindicator, plasma deredeo, basilisk etc..) and then consider the best tanks have armoured ceramite Armored Ceramite is a non-issue with Melta Bombs since they have Armorbane instead of Melta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 the flaw is having to get to melee. Consider the plethora of anti marine blast weapons in 30k (scorpius, medusa, vindicator, plasma deredeo, basilisk etc..) and then consider the best tanks have armoured ceramite Armored Ceramite is a non-issue with Melta Bombs since they have Armorbane instead of Melta. Wow....... I'm pretty prideful on my knowledge of the rules, and somehow I never knew that. Thanks for educating me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 the flaw is having to get to melee. Consider the plethora of anti marine blast weapons in 30k (scorpius, medusa, vindicator, plasma deredeo, basilisk etc..) and then consider the best tanks have armoured ceramite Armored Ceramite is a non-issue with Melta Bombs since they have Armorbane instead of Melta. Wow....... I'm pretty prideful on my knowledge of the rules, and somehow I never knew that. Thanks for educating me No problemo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 60 bodies for 1700 points? If you really wanted that many bodies, tacticals get you there for just 750, leaving ~1000 to spend on more point effective units. Vets are better than tacticals, but they cost more and will die just the same. It's not about the bodies but 60 melta bombs... Let that sink in. And they are fearless and have fleet and have some axes sprinkled into every squad. Most armies I run into have easily half their points in tanks/castellax/dreads/knights/etc? I see what you're saying, but I'd still rather save the points and use them on ranged shooting instead. You're going to loose a lot of those bodies before they make it into melee and they cost a lot more than regular marines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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