Hesh Kadesh Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I'd take a Paragon Blade. I5 S5 AP2 is ace, especially with Rage. I'm not sold on Heavy Bolters, or Chainaxes unless the meta has lots of 4+ Saves. Dropping some of them gets your Praetor Digiweapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304603-sons-of-horus-2000pts/page/2/#findComment-3979748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastelAvenger Posted March 17, 2015 Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 The Heavy Bolters are on the Sicaran to protect the Accelator Autocannon, apart from that though they were never going to get used. Dropping them and the chain axes will leave me 10pts I think to play with. I will probably throw melta bombs on the Reavers Chieftan. The final list then looks like this +++ Sons of Horus 2000 (2000pts) +++ ++ Legiones Astartes: Crusade Army List (Age of Darkness) (2000pts) ++ + HQ (315pts) + Legion Centurion [Artificer Armour, Power Weapon, Refractor Field] Consul [Master of Signal] Legion Praetor [Artificer Armour, Digital Lasers, Iron Halo, Jump Pack, Paragon Blade] Master of the Legion [The Black Reaving] + Troops (1150pts) + Legion Tactical Squad [14x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Nuncio-Vox, Take an additional Chainsword or Combat Blade] Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Power Fist] Legion Tactical Squad [14x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Nuncio-Vox, Take an additional Chainsword or Combat Blade] Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Power Fist] Reaver Attack Squad [Artificer Armour, Jump Packs, Melta Bombs, Power Fist, 2x Power Weapon, 9x Reavers] Reaver Attack Squad [Artificer Armour, Jump Packs, Melta Bombs, Power Fist, 2x Power Weapon, 9x Reavers] + Fast Attack (380pts) + Legion Javelin Attack Speeder Squadron Legion Javelin Attack Speeder [2x Hunter-killer Missiles, Multi-melta] Legion Javelin Attack Speeder [2x Hunter-killer Missiles, Multi-melta] Legion Javelin Attack Speeder Squadron Legion Javelin Attack Speeder [2x Hunter-killer Missiles, Multi-melta] Legion Javelin Attack Speeder [2x Hunter-killer Missiles, Multi-melta] + Heavy Support (155pts) + Legion Sicaran Battle Tank [Armoured Ceramite] + Legion + Legion Astartes [XVI: Sons of Horus] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304603-sons-of-horus-2000pts/page/2/#findComment-3979766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Not sold on the lone Sicaran, if I'm honest. It is your only real armour, and AV12 versus S8 AP1, melta or not won't last too long (and now people are realising this, unless it is a SH or a unit like a LR, AC is rarely taken). I cannot offer an alternative. It is also for this reason that 2500-3k is the ideal army size imho, allowing you the scope and scale without squeezing in. How are you dealing with flyers? Legion flyers like the Fire Raptor are at their strongest now until after the Deredeo has been out a bit more, and is really the last time they'll be as nigh untouchable as they are currently. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304603-sons-of-horus-2000pts/page/2/#findComment-3979776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastelAvenger Posted March 17, 2015 Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 I know that the Sicaran isn't a dedicated Anit Air platform but it could fill the position in a pinch, I would prefer to take a Fireraptor but I'm already tight on points and I'm not sure how I could get the extra 55pts. The only other option could be a Contemptor Mortis but that would suffer from the same problem of being the only armour in the list. I could always swap out the Sicaran for a Jetbike Squad and change the Praetor to be riding a Jetbike but then I will definitely not have anyway to deal with a flyer at all. Does anyone else have any thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304603-sons-of-horus-2000pts/page/2/#findComment-3979789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Aside from dropping some of the overpriced Javelins, not really. I'm not a fan of spending that many points of near guaranteed destruction units. Also, against AV10, for example rememeber that HK missiles only have a 45% chance to glance; that is 80pts, which is barely going to only just kill a Rhino. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304603-sons-of-horus-2000pts/page/2/#findComment-3979840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastelAvenger Posted March 17, 2015 Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 The Multi Melta would though. I could drop two Javelins (I just really like the models) use the points to take a Fireraptor? Dropping the Sicaran too would also mean I've got enough points for a Contemptor Mortis with Autocannons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304603-sons-of-horus-2000pts/page/2/#findComment-3979864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanct Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Also, against AV10, for example remember that HK missiles only have a 45% chance to glance; that is 80pts, which is barely going to only just kill a Rhino. Combined with the other weapons on a single javelin it would wreck a predator with side shots and have a fair chance of the doing the same to a sicaran. They are vulnerable in squadrons and i'd suggest running them solo unless a big outflanking 5 javelin unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304603-sons-of-horus-2000pts/page/2/#findComment-3983587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastelAvenger Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 So I've revised my list and I think I will go with this, I realise before I had no anti air so I've tried to address that as well as making them able to chew up squads. Probably the only thing I would change is giving the Contemptors autocannons. +++ Sons of Horus (1995pts) +++ + HQ + Legion Praetor [Artificer Armour, Digital Lasers, Iron Halo, Jump Pack, Paragon Blade] ····Master of the Legion [The Black Reaving] Legion Centurion [Artificer Armour, Power Weapon, Refractor Field] ····Consul [Master of Signal] + Troops + Legion Tactical Squad [14x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Nuncio-Vox, Take an additional Chainsword or Combat Blade] ····Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Power Weapon] Legion Tactical Squad [14x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Nuncio-Vox, Take an additional Chainsword or Combat Blade] ····Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Power Weapon] Reaver Attack Squad [Artificer Armour, Jump Packs, Power Fist, 2x Power Weapon, 9x Reavers] Reaver Attack Squad [Artificer Armour, Jump Packs, Power Fist, 2x Power Weapon, 9x Reavers] + Elites + Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought [Two Kheres Pattern Assault Cannons] Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought [Two Kheres Pattern Assault Cannons] + Fast Attack + Legion Javelin Attack Speeder Squadron ····Legion Javelin Attack Speeder [2x Hunter-killer Missiles, Multi-melta] ····Legion Javelin Attack Speeder [2x Hunter-killer Missiles, Multi-melta] + Legion + Legion Astartes [XVI: Sons of Horus Horus] Any thoughts on the changes? I think I've got a bit of everything in this list now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304603-sons-of-horus-2000pts/page/2/#findComment-3983897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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