Brother Heinrich Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Hey ladies and gents, just wanted to get an opinion on what everyone thinks are the best of the cerastus knight variants, Castigator, Lancer, or Acheron. Aesthetics-wise I really dig the Acheron, but I don't know how useful it actually is. The Lancer looks pretty cool too, though the same concern applies. I'd love to hear your guys' opinions though! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305288-best-cerastus-knight-variant/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) Castigator is a horde killer. Lancer is a monster/walker hunters Acheron is is the most flexible in that its flamer deals with large swathes of infantry very well, and its chainfist helps against most things. Edited March 29, 2015 by BassWave librisrouge 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305288-best-cerastus-knight-variant/#findComment-3991516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Mehman Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Personally, if I could take all three I'd be a happy pig. Like BassWave said so perfectly, each has a role on the battlefield. That being said, I'd take the Castigator. 8 S 7 shots will be bound to take down anything but AV 14 and then you've got that tasty S 10 sword to cut those in two ! walter h 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305288-best-cerastus-knight-variant/#findComment-3991533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) Good points, does the hellstorm cannon ignore cover saves? (I would assume so, but just want to be sure." Edit: Speaking about the Acheron's armament of course. Edited March 30, 2015 by Brother Heinrich Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305288-best-cerastus-knight-variant/#findComment-3991636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Good points, does the hellstorm cannon ignore cover saves? (I would assume so, but just want to be sure." Edit: Speaking about the Acheron's armament of course. Yes, it does. SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305288-best-cerastus-knight-variant/#findComment-3991644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 Cool. Think I may go the route of the Acheron (as soon as I come into a large sum of money lol) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305288-best-cerastus-knight-variant/#findComment-3991654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I just ordered a knight acheron for cheap, and am really happy this topic confirms my thoughts that this is indeed the best variant. what really sold me was the fact that he still has a twin linked heavy bolter that he can use to shoot other targets so he can charge these, thus not suffering from annihilating whatever he flames lionofjudah 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305288-best-cerastus-knight-variant/#findComment-3991768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Knight-Titans generally don't have problems killing infantry. Between the battle cannon firepower of your Paladins and the thermal cannon on Errants, you will vape most infantry very easily. So, I kinda feel that while the Acheron gets maximum style points, it's kinda redundant. Castigator is your go-to AA option, and something Knight-Titans have been crying out for (their piddly heavy stubbers don't do jack to most Flyers). 8x twin-linked S7 AP3 shots will rip most ground and air vehicles apart, and as others have mentioned, for super-heavies and AV13/14 you have melee. Lancer is your premier assault chassis. Usually I'd be taking that as your Seneschal, it really benefits from higher WS and statline to go with the assault shield. Also, in a pinch it can sorta do AA as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305288-best-cerastus-knight-variant/#findComment-3991904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 2 Paladins, 1 Errant, and 1 Castigator equal 1500pts. Need I say more? SJ librisrouge 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305288-best-cerastus-knight-variant/#findComment-3991960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 Also another question, can you ally in 1 knight titan to a 30k Space Marine force? I'm not sure how it works and if I have to take a minimum of two (1HQ, 1 Troop) to be able to take them as allies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305288-best-cerastus-knight-variant/#findComment-3992142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Also another question, can you ally in 1 knight titan to a 30k Space Marine force? I'm not sure how it works and if I have to take a minimum of two (1HQ, 1 Troop) to be able to take them as allies. Technically, yes, using the Questoris Knight FoC found in book 4 since they can only be taken as Mechanicum LoW otherwise. So it does mean a minimum of two, yes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305288-best-cerastus-knight-variant/#findComment-3992446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 Also another question, can you ally in 1 knight titan to a 30k Space Marine force? I'm not sure how it works and if I have to take a minimum of two (1HQ, 1 Troop) to be able to take them as allies. Technically, yes, using the Questoris Knight FoC found in book 4 since they can only be taken as Mechanicum LoW otherwise. So it does mean a minimum of two, yes. Man that is a bunch of garbage. Whatever we'll just house rule it so you can take one in the lord of war slot. Thank god for garage gaming. Slips 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305288-best-cerastus-knight-variant/#findComment-3992587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 It's an oversight they'll probably correct down the track. My feeling was in 'Conquest', they wanted to push the Crusade army list. It's a very nice detachment anyway, I'd highly recommend it if you can afford the 2nd Knight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305288-best-cerastus-knight-variant/#findComment-3993295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 Yeah I hope they do, it just seems like a natural addition to be able to pop a knight in the LoW slot. Hell all of them fall beneath the 25% cap in a 2,000 point list. It's practically made for it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305288-best-cerastus-knight-variant/#findComment-3993306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipkin Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I did go with the Acheron, with the simpel reason being the Machine Destroyer Sword. This guy eats traitor Warhounds for breakfast. heron and hendrik 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305288-best-cerastus-knight-variant/#findComment-4003185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Theres also his Hellstorm AP3 Flamer which all but erases MEQ and Weaker; so not a bad choice! lionofjudah 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305288-best-cerastus-knight-variant/#findComment-4003234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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