MikhalLeNoir Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 My ass is fat enough to catch everything honey^^ but to be clear: i meamt your soul^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4459615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Sorry to interrupt your beef, but here is Jackel again, no baby-face this time: http://image.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/gallery/album_11905/gallery_92945_11905_113975.jpeg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4459653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 (edited) Interesting... Hey, the Jackals are based on Australian Aboriginal culture somewhat right? Maybe Willym could have the same kind of skin tone to add to that theme and to add a bit of diversity to the Primarchs in that respect? Edited August 6, 2016 by SanguiniusReborn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4459679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Or, based on some Maori I've seen, some not remotely subtle face tattoos :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4459681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 And/or that too. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4459683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 You know being that The Emperor is from around Turkey I figured most Primarchs would have deep olive tone or tan skin. Though the artwork always made me think he was Native American because he looks like a lot of my family. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4459699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 You know being that The Emperor is from around Turkey I figured most Primarchs would have deep olive tone or tan skin. Though the artwork always made me think he was Native American because he looks like a lot of my family.That must mean that...3000 YEARS AGO THE EMPEROR HAD SEX WITH A WOMAN AND CREATED YOUR FAMILY!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4459701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 (edited) When the Sisters chase us down and purge us, don't say I didn't warn you. Edited August 6, 2016 by bluntblade Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4459706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 When the Sisters chase us down and purge us, don't say I didn't warn you.(sets face and smiles grimly, drawing a dane axe)Let them come! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4459708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 You know being that The Emperor is from around Turkey I figured most Primarchs would have deep olive tone or tan skin. Though the artwork always made me think he was Native American because he looks like a lot of my family.That must mean that...3000 YEARS AGO THE EMPEROR HAD SEX WITH A WOMAN AND CREATED YOUR FAMILY!!!! *gasp* Redd is a Sensei?! :o Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4459754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Invictus Posted August 7, 2016 Author Share Posted August 7, 2016 Interesting... Hey, the Jackals are based on Australian Aboriginal culture somewhat right? Maybe Willym could have the same kind of skin tone to add to that theme and to add a bit of diversity to the Primarchs in that respect? Yeah I planned for all my Fugite natives to be black and my Terrans to be deeply tanned, so I don't see any reason why Willym couldn't be black as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4460188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Just make him Khal Drago and everybody is happy or shivers with fear^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4460330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Hey, then we may have two "black" skin colored legions. ^^ And my Primarch will likely have some dreads, too. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4460355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) Just make him Khal Drago and everybody is happy or shivers with fear^^Nah, we should delve into the most lethal Maori warlords Edit: ignore, blunt be tipsy Edited August 7, 2016 by bluntblade Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4460371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) Hey, then we may have two "black" skin colored legions. ^^ And my Primarch will likely have some dreads, too. ;) That would make 2 primarchs with dreads as kawil has them too. @Blunt: oh would that be cool if the jackals make a haka before the fight^^ Edited August 7, 2016 by MikhalLeNoir Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4460395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Does that make the Emperor the hairy man the sun shine? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4460400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Short answer: yes Long answer: whooooot? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4460404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) Ah, tipsy spelling strikes again. Watch a haka with subtitles and it goes: "It is death! It is death! It is life! It it life! This is the hairy man who made the sun shine!" My family are big on rugby. I'm more a pelting down rivers dodging rocks sort of guy myself Edited August 7, 2016 by bluntblade Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4460408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Well it could also fit to jackal. They make the haka and when the hairy man is mentioned big entrance from jackal. Shazzam!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4460411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Invictus Posted August 9, 2016 Author Share Posted August 9, 2016 (edited) Wodoi 195 points The Wodoi were a peculiarity in the XVIIIth. They were neither accepted nor shunned. Willym had argued vigorously against their appointment, but had eventually relented to his father’s commands. After this he did not send them to guard some backwater world or play babysitter for new recruits. Instead he commissioned a battle barge for their use and allowed them to accompany the expeditionary fleet as it ploughed through the galaxy. Thus the Wodoi became a force of grey, neither shunned nor accepted by the primarch, although they were treated with disdain by the mainstream legion. as such the Wodoi fought with passion and fury, ever determined to prove their worth to their brothers, commanders, and most importantly, the primarch. WS BS S T W I LD SV 4 5 4 4 1 4 10 2+ Unit composition: 5 Wodoi Unit type: Jump Infantry Artificer Armour Jump Pack Power Dagger Frag and Krak grenades Tecoma Spear Tecoma spears were energised polearms designed to be hurled with incredible force at the enemy before flying back to the hand of the wielder via magnetic technology. Used on Fugion by the elite caste, as both a hunting tool and a weapon of war, Willym saw fit to introduce an upgraded version more suitable for space marines into the legion. They were useful in close quarters combat, and any skilled warrior equipped with one could run circles around a slower opponent Range: 15” S:4 AP:4 Assault 1 Counts as a Charnabel sabre in close combat May take up to 5 additional Wodoi for… +24 points per model Any model may take meltabombs… +5 points per model The entire squad may take Wyrmbat hides… +25 points Legiones Astartes (SJ) Vigilance Meteoric impact Chosen Warriors Stain of Duty Vigilance: Wodoi squads ignore the penalties for disordered charges if charging into a combat that contains a friendly independent character. Thunderous Impact: Models with this special rule always count as not having used their jump packs in the movement phase. Hammer of wrath hits made by a model with this special rule have +1 strength. Stain of Duty: Wodoi squads may only ever be joined by Praetors. In campaigns, they may never gain rewards for surviving the battle, etc. I feel like the word "Tecoma" has been used before around these parts, could someone please tell me whether its already in use somewhere. Otherwise, C&C welcome Edited August 9, 2016 by Praefectus Invictus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4462179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 I like the look of them. But before I critique at all what is their A value? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4462199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 I'll leave commenting on the rules to those better suited to it than myself. However, what are the wodoi? What function do they fulfill in the kegion? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4462201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Invictus Posted August 9, 2016 Author Share Posted August 9, 2016 I like the look of them. But before I critique at all what is their A value? Just when I'd thought I'd actually proof read effectively.... Their attack value is 2. I'll leave commenting on the rules to those better suited to it than myself. However, what are the wodoi? What function do they fulfill in the kegion? The Wodoi are the bodyguards and primarchs retinue. They are like those of the WE, present but ignored. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4462215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Ok. So critique. Staline: I think this is good. They are nicely understated, I love that they have BS5 rather than the stereotypical WS5 of other legions' elites. Equipment: The spear looks good and the other kit meshes quite well too. A couple of things though. I have a little cognitive dissonance with the Tecoma Spear being called a polearm and then only being one handed (probably because I imagine a polearm to be something like a halberd and thus two handed, so I'm happy to let it go if you give me an impression of something lighter). The other is to check that they are intended to never get the benefit of two weapons? As I believe that power daggers are specialist and charnabal sabres aren't (This is likely deliberate, but I just want to check). Special Rules: The vigilance rule is nice and give the impression of bodyguards racing to the rescue, but the second part doesn't ever come into play does it? As they already get re-rolls for charges due to their jump packs never count as being used in the move phase. Thunderous(Meteoric?) Impact looks good too and is actually a rule I was suggesting for someone else (albeit under a different name). And I like the drawback of Stain of Duty, it limits their battlefield role as they can either be joined by a Praetor or no-one, which is fluffy. The upgrades look pretty good too, with the exception of the points on the additional members. I don't think that 17 points is enough for what they are. I would push them into the 25-30 point each region for the additional members. Other than that I think the base cost looks about right (and in the region of other similar units, which is good). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4462250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Lol. Nust as I decided to take over the rule, the jackal used it too^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305770-ex-il-stygian-jackals/page/4/#findComment-4462278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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