Warsmith Aznable Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 The only thing it can't do is take a hit. That side AV10 is a real downer. The Avenger is a papier-mâché kite, and Interceptor weapons are its worst enemy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306076-avenger-strike-fighter/page/2/#findComment-4062952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Which is really ridiculous, by the way. It's a combination of a Stuka and an A-10 Thunderbolt, two of the most heavily armoured aircraft in history. Why does it have less armour than an interceptor?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306076-avenger-strike-fighter/page/2/#findComment-4063043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Pete Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Because it's for the Sisters. Sisters can't have really cool things because then they might become popular. And we can't have that, right GW? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306076-avenger-strike-fighter/page/2/#findComment-4063426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFlutterPie Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 It's because hardship increases our faith that the Emperor will deliver us. Until then only the faithful are seen fit to serve him for we have proven our mettle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306076-avenger-strike-fighter/page/2/#findComment-4063697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rommel44 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Doesn't the Sisters Avenger Strike Fighter come with the Shield of Faith save though? It's nothing great but every little bit helps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306076-avenger-strike-fighter/page/2/#findComment-4063869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 No it doesnt as far as i can tell from its rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306076-avenger-strike-fighter/page/2/#findComment-4063920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 No, the Avenger doesn't - its not actually a Sisters asset, its an Imperial Navy asset that the Sisters can include. Hence not actually being piloted by Sisters, unless you're doing a conversion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306076-avenger-strike-fighter/page/2/#findComment-4063951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackTalos Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 No, the Avenger doesn't - its not actually a Sisters asset, its an Imperial Navy asset that the Sisters can include. Hence not actually being piloted by Sisters, unless you're doing a conversion. Done! =P For the shield of faith: it's not our army-wide bonus (here's hoping that rumoured summer codex is coming up), so only Unit with the rule actually get it. Not for priests Not for Conclave Not for Avenger... But you could easily talk to your opponent for it, IIRC it's 5pts on a Rhino so an acceptable +10 ish or 15 points for it to stay in the fluff should not be too much. If you really really want to stay fluffy at all costs Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306076-avenger-strike-fighter/page/2/#findComment-4066807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Doesn't really matter for Priests or the Conclave though - the psychic defence is pointless and everything in a Conclave has a 5++ or better anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306076-avenger-strike-fighter/page/2/#findComment-4067221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rommel44 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 I hear you on the so called rumored Codex AND New models but until I see it I'm not buying it lol. And if we do get a new book, one can hope we have access to other flyers or get one of our own for a change. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306076-avenger-strike-fighter/page/2/#findComment-4068085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 I would throw a freaking party if they released a plastic Aquila with a fighter variant for Sisters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306076-avenger-strike-fighter/page/2/#findComment-4068165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackTalos Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 I hear you on the so called rumored Codex AND New models but until I see it I'm not buying it lol. And if we do get a new book, one can hope we have access to other flyers or get one of our own for a change. Though we can all wish-list, I was just thinking in more practical terms: GW is slowly moving everything away from CAD and giving all the new factions some formations but mainly their own Detachment system. Most "army-wide" benefits are now Command Benefits, so i can already see the horizon: Sisters of Battle "mission" detachment - All Units in this detachment get "shield of faith". I was even going to add "get Adamantium Will", but it's already included.... Doesn't really matter for Priests or the Conclave though - the psychic defence is pointless and everything in a Conclave has a 5++ or better anyway. Yeah, just pointing out Units "without" in our own Codex. Though I've always played my Avenger with shield of Faith, and the opponents love it. It is dreaded and feared on every table since the game where my opponent thought a few Flakk missiles would take it down. Only to get 1 Pen, and 1 shield of Faith on 3 consecutive Turns. Oooh a Pen; Its dead. Nope. Now its dead. Nope. Fire entire army left at it: 1 Pen. Nope... lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306076-avenger-strike-fighter/page/2/#findComment-4068230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendal1989 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Only to get 1 Pen, and 1 shield of Faith on 3 consecutive Turns. Oooh a Pen; Its dead. Nope. Now its dead. Nope. Fire entire army left at it: 1 Pen. Nope... lol I've had that happen a lot with my sisters in general. The best one was a demolisher cannon covered 3 girls for a 5 squad and a exorcist with 1 hull pt left. 1 girl died, and the exorcist passed its shield of faith against the pen.....and proceeded to finish off the demolisher the next turn. More on topic: The avenger, to me, is good for rounding out my list with volume of shots, especially with double CAD (yes I usually take 3 exorcists). I'll be interested in what they do with Sisters' dedicated detachments and formations. They have a lot of options for modifying rules (Shield of faith bonus or re-roll, adamantium will or general psychic denial bonuses, passing AoF, allowing more AoF, etc) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306076-avenger-strike-fighter/page/2/#findComment-4072750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackTalos Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 If "new detachments and formations" are even a far future possibility though lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306076-avenger-strike-fighter/page/2/#findComment-4072826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sororita Katya Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I'm really hoping the Christmas rumours with sisters and marines being in the new 40k starter box are true...have faith Sisters! (And men who are honorary sisters!) ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306076-avenger-strike-fighter/page/2/#findComment-4072830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 What rumours are those? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306076-avenger-strike-fighter/page/2/#findComment-4073011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Sisters rumours are an ever present background noise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306076-avenger-strike-fighter/page/2/#findComment-4073125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackTalos Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I'm really hoping the Christmas rumours with sisters and marines being in the new 40k starter box are true...have faith Sisters! (And men who are honorary sisters!) I also want to know Last i had was a summer/late summer release lol, though it was one massive planet-size salt block Sisters rumours: Redefining SoonTM Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306076-avenger-strike-fighter/page/2/#findComment-4073139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Sisters work on geological time (in comparison, loyalist Marines work on meteorological time). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306076-avenger-strike-fighter/page/2/#findComment-4073279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sororita Katya Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 as to not derail I shall create a new topic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306076-avenger-strike-fighter/page/2/#findComment-4073443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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