Apostle of the 30th Host Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 My instinctive reaction was to definitely go for option 2/2.5 and get a box of Skitarii and a box of Kastelans or Kataphrons. I actually quite like the Kastelans, and if you're not a fan of the head, I have seen some pretty decent swaps already (although I personally have no problem with it). If you can afford it, I would strongly suggest you get both the Kataphrons and Kastelans with your Skitarii as that way there is no regrets. However, if I had to choose between them I would pick the Kataphrons as they are just incredible! Gorgeous models, can't wait to get mine. So, based purely on how much I like the models I would say Skitarii and Kataphrons. However, putting a bit more thought into it I can now present the counter argument: as the Cult Mechanicus book is yet to be released, it may make more sense to get the Dunecrawler to round your Skitarii army off as a force in its own right and then move on to Cult Mech when you can see the full rules and how they interact? That way you can have a finished Skitarii force that can act on its own, or as an ally to any other force. It can then later be combined with Cult Mech once the codex is out or save you some money if you're not keen on it after all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4046712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Egregorius Posted May 17, 2015 Author Share Posted May 17, 2015 My instinctive reaction was to definitely go for option 2/2.5 and get a box of Skitarii and a box of Kastelans or Kataphrons. I actually quite like the Kastelans, and if you're not a fan of the head, I have seen some pretty decent swaps already (although I personally have no problem with it). If you can afford it, I would strongly suggest you get both the Kataphrons and Kastelans with your Skitarii as that way there is no regrets. However, if I had to choose between them I would pick the Kataphrons as they are just incredible! Gorgeous models, can't wait to get mine. So, based purely on how much I like the models I would say Skitarii and Kataphrons. However, putting a bit more thought into it I can now present the counter argument: as the Cult Mechanicus book is yet to be released, it may make more sense to get the Dunecrawler to round your Skitarii army off as a force in its own right and then move on to Cult Mech when you can see the full rules and how they interact? That way you can have a finished Skitarii force that can act on its own, or as an ally to any other force. It can then later be combined with Cult Mech once the codex is out or save you some money if you're not keen on it after all. Your second thoughtstream was my idea as well. Mostly because even though my skitarii won't be finished (I never "finish" armies, so to speak) it will at least be operational and i can add allies to it as I go along. The plan was always to field cult mech and skitarii together in my games anywho. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4046726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Egregorius Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 Uploading Macro-content engaging neural congress Noospheric autoshunt enabled Greetings my Brethren Magi! Along with my first ETL vow, my current lot of Skitarii are completed barring squad markings on the bases for identification! But fear not! there is armor inbound! http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/5/19/715009_sm-.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/5/19/715010_sm-.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/5/19/715011_sm-.JPG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4048633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascanius Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 It might just be the photography - I know how difficult it can be! - but I wonder if a thin highlight or drybrush of white along the ridges of the plasma coils might not add to the glowing effect? When I come to paint my own, my plan is to be very careful about putting the glaze only in the recesses, with only the thinnest layer elsewhere if at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4049049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Egregorius Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 It might just be the photography - I know how difficult it can be! - but I wonder if a thin highlight or drybrush of white along the ridges of the plasma coils might not add to the glowing effect? When I come to paint my own, my plan is to be very careful about putting the glaze only in the recesses, with only the thinnest layer elsewhere if at all. Good point, and i have done the white in the past. will try it when i get home. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4049414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Egregorius Posted May 24, 2015 Author Share Posted May 24, 2015 quickie general update: Been away from my painting desk since thursday. will not return till teusday evening. (family and time with the girlfriend) Will be priming the 1st dunecrawler of the legiones on that tuesday, which is otherwise built. Tally ho, fellow magi! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4055938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodusXIII Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Excuses. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4055952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Egregorius Posted May 24, 2015 Author Share Posted May 24, 2015 Excuses. Not at all, just a case of being in a completely different place than all my hobby stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4056631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Egregorius Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share Posted May 27, 2015 Minor Update: Painting has begun on the Onager, with the hull basecoat of Jokaero orange applied, as well as to the weapon. Further, i had enough influx of cash from my spring clear out of mini's (still ongoing, if anyone is interested lol) to order 2 more boxes of skitarii vanguard. This will give me 3 squads, each equipped to full with toys and one type of special weapon x 3 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4060452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Shiny! Can't wait to see the finished Onager! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4060626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Egregorius Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 Onager Update: http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/5/28/717104_sm-.JPG WIP eradication beamer http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/5/28/717105_sm-.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/5/28/717106_sm-.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/5/28/717107_sm-.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/5/28/717108_sm-.JPG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4061190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Egregorius Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 FINALIZED ONAGER! I will have an interesting and expansive suprise written up for an update in the next few days :P http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/6/4/718758_sm-.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/6/4/718760_sm-.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/6/4/718761_sm-.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/6/4/718762_sm-.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/6/4/718763_sm-.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/6/4/718764_sm-.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/6/4/718765_sm-.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/6/4/718766_sm-.JPG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4070695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Egregorius Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 Data Clearance: PRIORIS OMEGA 01010011 01100101 01100011 01110010 01100101 01110100 01110011 00100000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01100010 01101100 01101111 01101111 01100100 00100000 01101111 01100110 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01101101 01100001 01100011 01101000 01101001 01101110 01100101 00101110 ACCESSED: ARCHMAGOS Security code Identified. CONFIRMED Welcome Archmagos.... BEGIN DOCUMENT We were almost lost, Two standard Terran years ago, the waagghh rose up after a period of relative inactivity. Twenty Great Gargants assailed Olympus-Ryza, my fortress and data repository prime for the entire forgeworld. My Skitarii culled the horde at the monstrosities feet, buying time with their santified blood. A warlord class god-machine from Crucius defended the forge-temple, it's massive weaponry felling a half dozen of the blasphemous engines of the enemy. Without any secondary engine support however, it was destroyed. Torn apart by tractor beam weaponry from a score of the Gargants. Blazing white hot, the Warmonger fell to ruin amidst the horde's cheers. If Olympus-Ryza falls, so does the forge world. The data Repositories stored here house our most treasured designs, our most hallowed artifacts. The original STC blueprints for our plasma technology, all of it. The priesthood would be undone, and all our works with it, but for our last hope. Long in secret, a cache of Iron hands geneseed had been sealed under Olympus, in a vault bearing the inscription "Ferric Gift." It was discovered after an ork army besigeing the holy basilica caused a shift in the mountainous structure with explosives. A conclave of magi from across the Ryza system was convened, in secret, to decide it's fate. After a single day of arguments and counter arguments, it was decided to use the genetic material of Ferrus Mannus to construct a defensive army, a chapter dedicated to the Omnissiah and Ryzan Priesthood. Against all protocol, arch lexmechanics were engaged in forging the documents of founding, which were taken by arch secutors and seeded into the imperial archives on Terra. We created an astartes chapter without adeptus terra approval. And they won. Using gene stock from Ferrus Manus united with our own forge menial's of appropriate age, and the ancient conditioning machines and training fields under the mountain, we forged a force of warriors greater than any trans-human skitarii. We indoctrinated them into the worship of the omnissiah (although prudently make them think it is a form of Emperor worship in the event they make contact with other imperial forces). Thier Iron captains, chosen by hard data review of the training sessions, became lesser priests, and the omnissiah's work was done. That black day was thier triumph. Screaming out of hidden transport tunnels in Rhino class armored vehicles and wearing jump packs alight with flame, they set upon the horde. It was a slaughter, bolt shell and plasma blast ripping orcs to shreads. Freshly forged terminator suits, created at great cost by the Fabricator Locum, clad the warriors who teleported into the very Gargants themselves. In the course of two hours, the remaining orkoid warmachines were torn to cinders and their blasphemies extinguished. They are the Shields of Aurus, named for our sector, and they are our finest creation. END TRANSMISSION SUPER SECRET AWESOME UPDATE REVEALED.......With a bonus! http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/6/10/720684_sm-.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/6/10/720685_sm-.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/6/10/720686_sm-.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/6/10/720687_sm-.JPG BONUS WIP http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/6/10/720688_sm-.JPG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4081757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithrilForge Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 interesting,very interesting...i like the idea.... now sit back and wait for any Marine fluff zealots to come here and try to crucify you .... Mithril Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4081798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Egregorius Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 interesting,very interesting...i like the idea.... now sit back and wait for any Marine fluff zealots to come here and try to crucify you .... Mithril They can kiss my shiny metal gluteus maximus. I've been waiting to use that comeback. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4081823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 interesting,very interesting...i like the idea.... now sit back and wait for any Marine fluff zealots to come here and try to crucify you .... To be honest, a lot of the details given can be polished and tweaked - much of it can be hand waved. A couple of small problems, though - Firstly, Ryza, as far as I know, isn't one of the worlds that houses a gene-seed repository. How exactly can they procure hundreds of sets of progenoid glands to found their own chapter if they had not already secretly planned to raise a chapter? Secondly, even at an accelerated rate, converting men boys to space marines takes years. How do you intend to explain the battle lasting that long? I ask these two questions because, if you can cover the blind spots in your narrative that these questions address, you'll have a stronger story for it. There's no crucifying to be had. Since I had taken Modding tenure in the Liber, I've tried to enable origin stories for DIY chapters, rather than say "You can't do this, you can't do that...". That's the sort of attitude that kills creativity, not breeds it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4081854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Egregorius Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 interesting,very interesting...i like the idea.... now sit back and wait for any Marine fluff zealots to come here and try to crucify you .... To be honest, a lot of the details given can be polished and tweaked - much of it can be hand waved. A couple of small problems, though - Firstly, Ryza, as far as I know, isn't one of the worlds that houses a gene-seed repository. How exactly can they procure hundreds of sets of progenoid glands to found their own chapter if they had not already secretly planned to raise a chapter? Secondly, even at an accelerated rate, converting men boys to space marines takes years. How do you intend to explain the battle lasting that long? I ask these two questions because, if you can cover the blind spots in your narrative that these questions address, you'll have a stronger story for it. There's no crucifying to be had. Since I had taken Modding tenure in the Liber, I've tried to enable origin stories for DIY chapters, rather than say "You can't do this, you can't do that...". That's the sort of attitude that kills creativity, not breeds it. 1. The Gene seed repository was unearthed after an ork strike, not during the battle i describe but earlier, this segues into point 2. I did not date things as correctly as I should have. the repository was found a decade earlier than the battle i describe, otherwise, boom goes the dynamite. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4081863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 1. The Gene seed repository was unearthed after an ork strike, not during the battle i describe but earlier, this segues into point 2. I did not date things as correctly as I should have. the repository was found a decade earlier than the battle i describe, otherwise, boom goes the dynamite. Would it not make more sense to have the Mechanicus secretly import the progenoids rather than have them (very very coincidentally) find a gene-seed repository that everyone had apparently lost and forgotten? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4081868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Egregorius Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 1. The Gene seed repository was unearthed after an ork strike, not during the battle i describe but earlier, this segues into point 2. I did not date things as correctly as I should have. the repository was found a decade earlier than the battle i describe, otherwise, boom goes the dynamite. Would it not make more sense to have the Mechanicus secretly import the progenoids rather than have them (very very coincidentally) find a gene-seed repository that everyone had apparently lost and forgotten? Perhaps it was imported, and then forgotten about because of the war? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4082089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Do you plan on the war lasting for at least several years? Or can you change the idea so that the Chapter was already in the middle of creation when the war occurred? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4082333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battybattybats Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 The Mechanicus did it before with the Steel Confessors http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Steel_ConfessorsSo it has a clear precedent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4083739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Dunno, IMO archeotech is a very real thing in 40k so it's not outside the realm of possibility for any strange/esoteric/surprising discoveries to occur. GW has been using this excuse for years to get models like Stormravens and Centurions shoehorned into the codices; why not take advantage of it ourselves, eh? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4084256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Egregorius Posted June 15, 2015 Author Share Posted June 15, 2015 Do you plan on the war lasting for at least several years? Or can you change the idea so that the Chapter was already in the middle of creation when the war occurred? already in middle of creation The Mechanicus did it before with the Steel Confessors http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Steel_Confessors So it has a clear precedent. Indeed Dunno, IMO archeotech is a very real thing in 40k so it's not outside the realm of possibility for any strange/esoteric/surprising discoveries to occur. GW has been using this excuse for years to get models like Stormravens and Centurions shoehorned into the codices; why not take advantage of it ourselves, eh? Indeed very true Velcona Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4088314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Do you plan on the war lasting for at least several years? Or can you change the idea so that the Chapter was already in the middle of creation when the war occurred? already in middle of creation That's good to hear - if they already had functional astartes by that point then churning out more marines is much less of a problem than starting the Chapter from scratch. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4088338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Egregorius Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share Posted June 16, 2015 Do you plan on the war lasting for at least several years? Or can you change the idea so that the Chapter was already in the middle of creation when the war occurred? already in middle of creation That's good to hear - if they already had functional astartes by that point then churning out more marines is much less of a problem than starting the Chapter from scratch. indeed. the current units were in rigorous training from magos-secutors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306597-ryza-ascendant-a-blog/page/3/#findComment-4088985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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