b1soul Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I can't bring myself to chance it again with a Nick Kyme offering Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4035024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Why is it so hard to find another author for the salamanders? Has kyme tagged the salamanders as his legion and no-one else may write it? Do all the other authors find them dull? Note that i haven't read damnation of pythos, i spoiled it for myself by reading ALL the spoilers of it. Numeons alive? What? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4035042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveNYC Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Why is it so hard to find another author for the salamanders? Has kyme tagged the salamanders as his legion and no-one else may write it? Do all the other authors find them dull? Note that i haven't read damnation of pythos, i spoiled it for myself by reading ALL the spoilers of it. Numeons alive? What? All I can think is that he has some quality blackmail material on hand. Vulkan Lives was 460 pages of torture porn, four pages of bolter porn and zero pages of character development. I'm not touching this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4035454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hummus Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Why is it so hard to find another author for the salamanders? Has kyme tagged the salamanders as his legion and no-one else may write it? Do all the other authors find them dull? Note that i haven't read damnation of pythos, i spoiled it for myself by reading ALL the spoilers of it. Numeons alive? What? +1 to this why can only 1 author do 1 set of guys, it's good news for guys who like night lords or word bearers or world eaters but kinda sucks for guys who like salamanders or blood angels. Vulkan livess was pretty hard going Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4035458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I'll reserve my opinion of the story itself, but that cover art is stunning. That is how I will imagine 30k Salamanders forever now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4035552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazarak Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Oh god damn. That guy sucks. I second the question as to why we have to have this one awful writer do my salamanders. It's a real hard stretch of road to wade through a novel of his. I am also in complete agreement about the cover. That's simply fantastic work. Mazzy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4035742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Also I kinda just realized this but deathfire(what a stupid name) is basically the plot in the title. Death fire is about how the salamanders see Vulkan dead so they throw him into fire. I'm already not liking this The cover is one of the coolest pieces of art I've seen in a long time is badass. Also about only one author taking the salamanders it's a double edged sword. On one hand you get another take and maybe a better one. Or you get dark angels treatment where the only defining trait your primarch has is that he Multiple personality disorders and doesn't know what he want to be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4035749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Also I kinda just realized this but deathfire(what a stupid name) is basically the plot in the title. Death fire is about how the salamanders see Vulkan dead so they throw him into fire. I'm already not liking this Mount Deathfire is canon, and has been for a long time. It has also always been a pivotal part of their culture and history. Not sayin' it's a clever name, but it's been around for a long time. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4035800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Also I kinda just realized this but deathfire(what a stupid name) is basically the plot in the title. Death fire is about how the salamanders see Vulkan dead so they throw him into fire. I'm already not liking this Mount Deathfire is canon, and has been for a long time. It has also always been a pivotal part of their culture and history. Not sayin' it's a clever name, but it's been around for a long time. :) I completely missed that. Is that were Vulkan had the competition with the emperor? I just read more about it and it's actually pretty cool. Never realized how big it is. Thanks hynedia. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4036293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Ah, give it a chance... Some of his stuff is quite good, every Black Library author has an off day once in a while, have faith... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4036308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Aye. Then again, I still love Ben Counter, so take that as you will, lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4036318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 The art is up to buy - and it's lovely! :wub: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4051381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Yay! Can't wait for Vulkan to be back!'Its also a Hammer' is still one of my favorite lines from the HH series :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4051802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Im looking forward to it! Good to see a proper novel in the series again. I know some people dont like kyme, but i absolutley love his audio dramas "Censure" and strategem, so im very optimistic for this. And of course we are bound to see some Ultramarines, right? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4051889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Yay! Can't wait for Vulkan to be back! 'Its also a Hammer' is still one of my favorite lines from the HH series :D Where's that line from? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4051921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Yay! Can't wait for Vulkan to be back! 'Its also a Hammer' is still one of my favorite lines from the HH series Where's that line from? Vulkan Lives isn't it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4052309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Yay! Can't wait for Vulkan to be back! 'Its also a Hammer' is still one of my favorite lines from the HH series :D Where's that line from? Vulkan Lives isn't it? Ah, I've not read that one. I'm pretty sure I've seen it in someone's signature on here though. I kinda wanna read it now to get the context haha. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4052319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Deathfire aka Numeon Lives (Part of the ...Lives trilogy) I mean really. It's getting beyond a joke now. Characters who are dead should stay, well, dead. I can stomach the Perpetuals because it's an interesting concept, Vulkan, at a push. But I mean a character whose last appearance was their death? I don't hate his writing per say, I just find it too much ball ache to get to grips with his depictions of characters who've already had good work done previously. Like the Salamanders, zero problem with that. Curze and the Night Lords? Horrific. On the plus side it's good to get a story that's advancing the main narrative again rather than tiny bits and pieces scattered from the "early years" or one that doesn't have any impact on the wider story like Damnation of Pythos Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4052329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 aaaand the hardback version should be available up for pre-order this saturday Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4098368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 You know what I wonder, is the current dearth of forward progress in the HH a result of them wanting to release tie in's with FW? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4098440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hérétíc Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 A full on book thingy! I don't care! I don't care!Gimmie gimmie gimmie :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4098475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 SPOILERS BELOWWWWW Couldn't find a newer thread so, bump! I loved it. First Sally novel where it seemed like the Sallies aren't stupidly protective of the innocent T the expense of ALL common or tactical sense. There's bit where they expect mortals to sacrifice themselves, a bit where a daemon child appears but instead of the expected 'OMG hug it reaction' Nick usually gives....one sallie just opens fire straight up because :cussing creepy little girls shouldn't just appear. Also it's nice to see some good :cuss happen to the loyalists. The last battle was glorious on top of MOAR vulkan. Vulkan lives! :cuss yeaaaaaah! @ the bit about Numeon lives, he never died. He just got beat up, the start of Deathfire is about how he was captured and healed by the Word Whiners who torture him about the whereabouts of the godspear thingy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4107794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Good things shouldnt happen to the loyalists....let alone the shattered ones. :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4107882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted June 29, 2015 Author Share Posted June 29, 2015 Couldn't find a newer thread so, bump! and that's good actually xD the thread was meant for the whole book, from the "you will get the book soon", to "you can pre order it", to "here are the book spoilers - discuss" :P i still wait for my copy, but can't wait to read more about Numeon :> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4107903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Finished it earlier. I'm....undecided. Whilst it didn't make me shake my head in despair in the same vein as Vulkan Lives, it certainly didn't grab my imagination like many of the other books in the series. I'll have another read of it whilst I'm on holiday next week. Might come down on either side of the fence after a second attempt Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306796-new-hh-novel-deathfire/page/2/#findComment-4107915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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